Talk:You Don't Own Me

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Klaus Nomi[edit]

1981's Klaus Nomi version — Preceding unsigned comment added by HamSalad (talk • contribs) 08:53, 8 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Writer[edit]

I edited this entry because I thought it was desirable that a page about a song should mention who wrote it. Johnbax (talk) 20:48, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

American horror story[edit]

This song was used for a scene in the American Horror Story: Asylum (S2:E6) episode entitled "The Origins of Monstrosity." Original air date 21 November 2012. The character Sister Mary Eunice donned sister Jude's red négligée while dancing and singing along to this song. (The reason for this would be a minor spoiler). Thaeryn (talk) 14:21, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I know people love lists, but generally, we try to avoid creating trivia lists of every time a song is used in Film or TV. The exception would be a use of the song that has cultural significance such as in The First Wives Club, where it became an new type of Feminist Anthem, speaking out against the cliche of male Mid-life. Another thing that drags down song articles is when every cover version under the sun gets a mention. Articles should not be lists of lists. Only stand-out cover versions , which have achieved significant success and recognition on their own should be mentioned. I know there are many Song articles that are filled with lists of lists, but it is something we should try to avoid. I'd like to see MORE about the impact of the original song itself and I'm sad to see there isn't much said about that. Even the chart listings are confusing.LiPollis (talk) 07:59, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Major factor[edit]

'played a major factor' simply isn't English! - it should surely read 'was a major factor'188.203.49.105 (talk) 16:30, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

American Horror Story again[edit]

the mention of the songs use in American Horror Story is currently marked as "citation needed", but I'm not a hardcore Wikipedian and don't really feel like delving into what is and isn't considered a reliable source, but if IMDb and an unambiguous (as in obviously not altered) clip on vimeo help, here are the relevant links if anyone feels like making the edit: AHS - The Origins of Monstrosity (soundtrack), vimeo clip (actress dances and sings along with the song on the radio) - 96.30.170.191 (talk) 19:03, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The sources may be reliable, but a single-episode appearance of such an iconic song isn't worth mention. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 16:07, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merger Proposal[edit]

I'd suggest we move Grace's cover of the song, currently here, into this article. My reasoning is that, though far from identical, the new version is still similar enough to be considered a cover, in which case it should be a section within an article on the original song. For instance, the article for "Lady Marmalade" holds information for the original hit recording by Labelle as well as the Christina Aguilera/Lil' Kim/Mýa/Pink version, even though the latter is extensively different, with added rap verses, different instrumentation, etc.

The 2015 recording of "You Don't Own Me" is referred to as a "modern take" and "[Grace's] own version" between the two articles, but I don't feel that either of those explanations truly explain how this is a different song from the 1963 version. Cover songs are always on the original article here on Wikipedia, so I'm suggesting that these articles follow suit. Mhavril39 (talk) 23:50, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Having two articles is silly, and very user unfriendly. Merging benefits anyone interested in whatever version of the song. 2005 (talk) 04:53, 29 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The two songs should merge. Yoshiman6464 (talk) 18:33, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of André Hazes version[edit]

Is the Dutch-language cover by André Hazes actually notable for an international English-speaking audience? I propose to delete that paragraph. There are certainly more notable versions, like Dusty Springfield's. 62.205.75.113 (talk) 20:38, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Useful refs for updating article[edit]

Bookku (talk) 07:46, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gay Anthem[edit]

This song always seems to me a tantrum thrown by a young, naive gay man, directed at the older, sophisticated and affluent gay he's been dating. It's a late-night apartment-fight that all the neighbours can enjoy, with slamming doors and smashed wine-glasses. The line 'don't say I can't go with other boys' is kind of a give-away.

The line 'don't tell me what to wear' just doesn't work for a girl. What kind of guy would dare to tell a girl he's dating how to dress? What kind of wimpy girl would obey him? That 'women don't dress for men' is a feminist article of faith, inscribed on a tablet somewhere. FWIW, far from being a 'feminist anthem', this is just the story of a silly lass whining about someone who knows his own mind, when she does not. It's all about stubborn and sulky, not a brave declaration of character. Please.

The minor key, the brooding air of teenage tragedy and martyrdom push the text towards farce, which was perhaps intended. 'You Don't Own Me' is a sonic meme, a snuffling selfie snapped in the toilet mirror of a cerise-lit bar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:44B8:3102:BB00:D5EF:3985:2D2C:3966 (talk) 21:10, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Finally, the song was written by two men. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:44B8:3102:BB00:D5EF:3985:2D2C:3966 (talk) 20:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Women and Music[edit]

This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 January 2024 and 10 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): JoeGould123 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Tuj26588.

— Assignment last updated by ProfG-P (talk) 13:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Impact section[edit]

I added the impact section to this article, You Don't own Me, as there was veery little mention of how the song effected society at the time and even now. I added a few citations as well, to help give context to how Americans felt regarding the powerful words of the song, and how it became an icon for feminism at the time and in current times. This highlighted the relevance of the song, as Lesley Gore had spoken on the continuous impact it creates. JoeGould123 (talk) 21:04, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]