Talk:Yeah! (Usher song)

Hitch

Shouldn't the fact it was on hitch be added here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.225.112.39 (talk) 00:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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Unsourced

The single kicked off what would be a string of back to back hits for Usher. "Yeah!" was followed by number-one hits "Burn", "Confessions Part II", and "My Boo" (with Alicia Keys). The song not only shot Usher to new heights of fame, but it also made Lil Jon one of the most popular producers of 2004.

Musically, the song was influential in applying Lil Jon's "crunk" beat-making to a pop-R&B context—utilizing sung portions over Lil Jon's trademark huge, low-end synthesizer hooks. The song thus validated the applications of "Dirty South"-style beats to R&B songs—as on subsequent songs like Amerie's "Touch", Monica featuring Dem Franchize Boyz's "Everytime tha Beat Drop", and Chris Brown featuring Juelz Santana's number-one pop and R&B hit "Run It!", actually produced by Scott Storch in a style heavily derivative of "Yeah!" and Lil Jon's crunk in general. Also Mario would do a very similar song: "Boom", from his 2004 album Turning Point, with similar lyrics, Lil Jon producing, and a rap collaborator (Juvenile). There is a remix to "Yeah!" featuring Lil Jon, Ludacris, Bone Crusher, YoungBloodZ, Nivea, and Pastor Troy.

In 2004, Drunkenmunky remixed a sample from "Yeah!" into a hard house track with the same name.

The track was picked up by Z100 in March 2004, and managed to hit number one on the "Interactive 9@9" for a month and a half. On VH1, the song was ranked number one on the Top 40 Videos of 2004.

The song is considered one of the high points of the crunk movement in popular hip hop music.

I've just revamped the article and found some unsourced contents. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 09:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Successful good article nomination

I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of March 4, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Pass

2. Factually accurate?: Pass

3. Broad in coverage?: Pass

4. Neutral point of view?: Pass

5. Article stability? Pass

6. Images?: Pass

If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations. JayJ47 (talk) 09:52, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I still don't get it

I today was watching "Yeah!" music video and on the final of the video, there is a hallway scenes. I don't understand that scenes. Melyssa says to Usher "come here" and Usher is walking on the hallway when suddenly, Melyssa grasps Usher and Usher goes to a darkened room. We see Usher in the wall. In the end of that scenes, Melyssa takes the cap of Usher and she strains the hair. I just don't get it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.28.13.158 (talk) 18:57, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah! vs. Love In This Club

music battle - Yeah! vs. Love In This Club

I made a music video battle. Now choose the winner!

Info of the end of Yeah! : Melyssa says to Usher "come here" and Usher goes to a hallway. Usher see nobody on the hallway so Usher walk. Melyssa appears and grasps Usher and Usher beats against a wall. To follow, Melyssa takes the cap that Usher has in the head and she strains her hair.

Info of the end of Love In This Club : Instead of a hallway, Usher goes to a exit of the club and Keri Hilson appears and to finish the video, Keri disappear.

Now vote!

pVip (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Yeah! (Usher song)

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Yeah! (Usher song)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Billboard":

• From Slap (song): Marisa Brown. Release Therapy - Ludacris Billboard. Accessed January 11, 2008.
• From Turn Me On: Billboard allmusic.com (Retrieved June 19, 2008)
• From Goodies (song): Ciara - Billboard singles
• From Oh (Ciara song): Ciara - Charts & Awards - Billboard singles
• From Ciara: " Billboard.com Biography - Ciara". Retrieved December 14, 2006.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 20:43, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

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Reassessor: Till I Go Home (talk) 06:30, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Infobox

• Red-link for Robert McDowell.
• Remove certification because of inconsistency (since there are many more certifications).

Lead

• as the lead single from his hit fourth studio album Confessions -> "hit"? POVish and unnecessary. Needs year of release after album e.g. Confessions (2005)
• Again, red-link.
• The song features vocals from Lil Jon and Ludacris. The song was remixed with Tego Calderón. I can start to see many truncated sentences.
• Billboard needs to be in italics.
• the longest-running of 2004, and its huge success added to Usher's hit success that year. -> longest-running what? "Usher's hit success that year" is kind of unnecessary to the article in question.
• one of the fastest selling hip hop songs ever -> this needs clarification, and should be reworded (sounds POVish)
• The song ranks second on the... -> Should be in past tense
• Remove reference in the lead.
• Usher performed "Yeah!" at the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show 2008 as runway soundtrack. -> grammar sounds poor but I may be wrong
• "The song" is repeating a lot in the lead which needs fixing.
• The lead is just one big bulky paragraph, maybe separating into two?

Background and composition

• Colloquial terms such as went back to the studio -> returned to the studio
• For the third time, red-link needs fixing
• How many beats per minute does it move?
• Clarification needed in the sample caption.

Reception

• The songs rights were released to the creators of Glee for the final song for their season two finale. It was sung by the Crawford County Girls Choir, a competing group in the National Show Choir Competition. -> songs is gramatically incorrect, this sentence needs verification with a source

Chart performance

• Seven weeks later, it peaked on the chart at number one -> "on the chart" is redundant
• for reaching one million shipments -> awkward prose
• "Yeah!" became the 2004's best-performing single in the United States -> doesn't make sense.
• The single ranks at number -> again, needs to be past tense. "at" is unnecessary
• Internationally, "Yeah!" received similar responses, topping many charts. -> awkward prose
• The single reached number 1 in the Australia Singles Top 50 -> "1" should be in words, "in the" is incorrect, "Top 50" is unnecessary and should be replaces with "chart".
• Instead of listing the actual chart names (e.g. Austria Singles top 75) you could write "on the singles charts in ...."
• Overall, the single charted to different charts worldwide for a year, early in 2004 to early in 2005 -> awkward prose, doesn't make sense
• The single was certified platinum by the Australian Recording Industry Association for selling 70,000 units -> wrong, it is based on shipments not sales
• At the 2004 Year Ender charts -> "at"? "year ender"? huh?
• It was certified double platinum by the Recording Industry Association of New Zealand. -> needs verification with a source

Music video

• The treatment was accompanied of how Usher wanted to be portrayed in the video, particularly showcasing his dance moves. -> this appears gramatically incorrect or awkward
• I noticed that it doesn't have much structure to it, there aren't subsections like "background" and "sypnosis".

Track listings

• Why only UK? I'm sure it was released in many other countries.
• Needs to be sourced

Charts

• The "year end charts" for UK and US are unsourced.
• The certifications table: "sales certified" doesn't make sense. The "date" column is unnecessary.

References They are in quite bad condition:

• ref. 1 -> needs publisher, date and access date
• ref. 2 -> MTV News should not be in italics, the publisher is Viacom.
• ref. 3 -> needs date, and the same issue as ref. 2
• ref. 5 -> what is "indswept Holdings"? The publisher is Sony ATV Music Publishing
• ref. 6 -> same as 2 and 3
• ref. 7 & 8 -> same as 2 and 3
• ref 9 & 10 -> dead links
• ref 13 -> dead link
• ref 15 -> publisher is Rovi Corporation
• ref. 20 -> same as 2, 3, 7, 8
• ref. 24 -> same as above
• ref. 30 -> ARIA should be in brackets
• ref. 31 -> publisher shouldn't be in italics
• ref. 32 -> same as 2, 3, etc.
• ref. 56 -> write full publisher + not in italics
• ref. 57-67 -> publishers need fixing
• ref. 70 -> publisher is Recording Industry Association of New Zealand
• ref. 71-74 -> publishers need fixing.

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

• The article looks okay at first glance, but after thoroughly going through everything I can see there are many issues. Till I Go Home (talk) 07:00, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

I notified the editor who promoted the article about the GAN, but no attempt has been made to fix the issues. Sorry but that's a delist. Till I Go Home (talk) 08:31, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

Reviewer: Status (talk · contribs) 18:36, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

OK, sorry for the wait. Let's begin.

Note I should mention that I did not write this article. I just did improvements per Talk:Yeah! (Usher song)/GA1, as it was re-assessed a few months ago. Rayman^{95 (talk)} 22:10, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

• We have 3 connection issues and 3 dead links

 Done Replaced 2 dead links, removed German Year-end and TRL, as they could't be retrieved.

Lead

• I've done some slight copyediting here, but it is still in need of some work.
• What did critics have to say about the song? Did they like it, did they hate it?

 Done Included critical reaction

• What about the music video?

 Done Added information on music video

• Usher performed "Yeah!" at the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show 2008 as a runway soundtrack. --> What relevance does this have to do the lead? Especially over the two above things. Remove it.

 Done Removed

• I'll go over this again once it's expanded.

Background and composition

• I've also done some copyediting here, but also, there are some more work to be done:
• In 2003 --> When in 2003?

 Done The reference says in the 'fall' of 2003, so I included that

• Although they had "Burn", the first song produced for the album, as waiting list, Usher had to record a few more tracks. --> I assumed this meant they had chosen "Burn" to be the lead single, but this is terribly written. It needs a rewrite.

 Done Improved

• How could this section be called composition, but it talks nothing of? This really needs to be expanded upon. Take On_the_Floor#Composition as a good example.

Comment The bottom paragraph makes a small notice of its composition, but I agree, I'm not sure why the original editor titled it composition. I'll see if I can expand it.

Release

• This is kind of repeating the same things. I suggest merging Background and release in one section, and having composition on its own.

Comment The release talks about what happened after "Yeah!" was produced, the background is before, so I don't think they repeat. I'd say merging composition and release would be a better idea, seeing how background has enough information anyway.

• Where exactly is the February 3, 2004 date coming from earlier in the article? The only sourced date I'm seeing is January 27, 2004.

 Done Changed the date to January

Reception

• For a lead single, there should be so much more reception available than what is in the article. This needs to be expanded upon further, as well. I'll go back to this when that's complete.

 Done The original editor already included the major reviews. I've added in the LA Times review, but besides that there isn't any more notable ones.

Chart performance

• "Yeah!" debuted on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 at number fifty-three on January 13, 2004, prior to its physical release --> How does a song debut before it's release? If there's a radio addon date, it should be added into the article.

 Done It probably was due to radio play, but I think finding a radio addon at this point is almost impossible. I removed the "prior to its physical release" part.

• Seven weeks later, it peaked at number one on March 2, staying there for twelve consecutive weeks. --> On March 2, the song peaked atop the chart and stayed at that position for twelve consecutive weeks.

 Done Changed

• "Yeah!" became the most-played song in 2004, Nielsen Broadcast Data Systems placed the song on the top for getting 496,805 total plays, above Hoobastank's single "The Reason" with 489,976 spins. --> "Yeah!" became the most played song in the United States in 2004, with Nielsen Broadcast Data Systems reporting the song getting a total of 496,805 plays.

 Done Changed

• The single was certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America on June 11, 2006 for shipping one million copies. --> Shipments only refer to album releases. There's no way in 2006 that a physical single could ship a million units.

 Done I interpreted it as shipping one million physical copies since its release, so in a period of 2 years. I think I made it more clear.

• This focuses too much solely on the US, and then just mentioning international markets. It should be in the same for each country.

 Done I've expanded the second paragraph

Music video

• Don't see a reason why this is broken up into different sections; it could all easily fit into one.

Comment This was suggested by the reviewer, who assessed the article the first time, per Talk:Yeah! (Usher song)/GA1

• The synopsis is way too short; it needs to be expanded.

 Done Expanded, and merged paragraphs so the section looks better

• How about a screenshot?

Comment I checked iTunes, VEVO, Yahoo! music videos, and other sites but no good. The only site I could find the video on was YouTube, but those were uploaded by users, so I'm not sure if they would be suitable.

• I'll go over the prose of this section once the above is complete.

References

• I will look these over later.

• On hold until September 3, two weeks from today, as I am going on vacation in a couple of days, and won't be online for about a week.

Verdict

• I'm sorry for taking so long to get back to this. I do not feel confident in passing this article, as I don't feel like it's complete. For a number one single across the globe, there's gotta be more information to be added that isn't present in the article.
• What I would suggest before nominating the article a second time is looking into more information about the song's production and how it came about, it's composition, critical reception and chart performance.
• The song topped the charts in Canada,[38] Denmark,[39] Netherlands,[40] France,[41] Germany,[42] Ireland,[43] Norway[44] and the United Kingdom.[45], for example, is unacceptable when there is a huge amount of detail for the US chart positions; it should be all the way around. See On the Floor for an example of this.
• I know that the song is almost 10 years old, but try Google Books and other types of resources; I'm sure you'll be able to find something.
• Good luck to you!

Zac  03:31, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: not moved: insufficient support. DrKiernan (talk) 15:26, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

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Yeah! (Usher song) → Yeah! (song) – Neither of the other two songs have an exclamation mark. Unreal7 (talk) 19:15, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose several songs have that punctuation on the dab page Yeah -- 70.50.149.56 (talk) 21:56, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

  But this is the only one which has an article. See Chasing the Sun (song) and Under the Sun (song) for other examples. Unreal7 (talk) 20:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

  How is Chasing the Sun and Under the Sun the same thing? Zac (talk) 06:35, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

  Because there are other songs of those names but they don't have articles. That was my point about articles not exclamation marks. Unreal7 (talk) 22:37, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

• Support As explained, it's the only article entitled Yeah with the exclamation mark and an article. Et3rnal 20:32, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose: Just because the other song titles with an exclamation point don't have articles, it doesn't mean there always won't be. Zac (talk) 06:35, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

  I never said that there would never be another one because another one may exist in the near or distant future, but until that time comes... Unreal7 (talk) 22:35, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Brandt Luke Zorn (talk · contribs) 05:55, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

• "It was produced by the former" is basically fine, but not optimum since there's a huge list just before.

I just thought that since he was already mentioned twice it might diversify the paragraph a bit. I've changed 'former' to 'Lil Jon'.

• "It was certified two times platinum in New Zealand, and received a platinum certification in several countries, including Australia, Belgium, Canada, Germany and Norway." It looks like the 2x Platinum certification in NZ is worth less in total shipments than any of those other Platinum certifications, but even if that weren't the case I'd still recommend moving it to the end to improve the sentence's flow.

Done.

• "Despite having the album's now second single, "Burn" as a candidate" there's something a little stiff about this wording, especially "candidate". I'd recommend simplifying that part, especially given the Lil Jon quote just below pretty much covers it, and also replacing "now" with "eventual".

I've removed the "Burn" as a candidate" part and re-worded the sentence. Changed 'now' with 'eventual'.

• I think the "Freek-a-Leek" has some vital details about "Yeah!"—for instance, that Usher had already recorded over the leftover song before Lil Jon realized it had been used behind his back. I'd port this stuff over.

Ported over, with the sentence altered for better flow.

• A "Composition and release" is kind of unusual. Not a big deal, but the release section would be better paired with either the Background or Reception, and in this case I think it fits best in Background to keep the flow of the story of the song's creation.

I've combined the background and release, though the composition section was to small on its own, so its been combined with reception. I think both sections flow better now.

• "Mr. X said that the song reminded him of laser beams. He felt the sound was a laser beam for him, referring to the song as "distinctive"." A bit of a redundancy. It doesn't add much that he thought the song was "distinctive" either, unless there's more to that, like he thought it was distinctive for a particular reason.

The source doesn't give any particular reason to why he finds it distinctive, so I've removed it.

• Melyssa Ford is also worth a mention in the video's Background section, since she had previously worked with and was discovered by the director.

Included in formation.

• Neither the decade-end charts nor the fact that "As of August 2012, the song has sold 3,575,000 digital copies" are included in the main body of the text.

The sales figure was already included at the end of the first paragraph in the chart performance section. I've made a note regarding the decade end chart just before it.

Verdict

I decided to pass this. One of the concerns brought up in the previous review was the lack of sources from things like Google Books, but I did a search there myself and it didn't turn up anything useful—a couple Billboards, a few Usher biographies, a few Vibe articles, but nothing that isn't already in the article. If you can find more recent critical appraisal of the song (Best of All Time/Decade kind of things, reflection on "Yeah" as part of Usher's career or R&B history), it would be useful to improve the article, but not essential to become a GA.

The other next step for this article is to advance the quality of the prose. Right now most everything is sufficiently clear, but there are some sentences that could be tightened up. For example, a sentence that I reworded: "Though "Yeah!" had been created, the label was not ready to decide whether it would be released as the lead single, considering they had "Burn" on queue." There's some slightly awkward wording—"created" isn't quite right for a song. I put "completed," though "recorded" is probably also OK. Also, more crucially, "was not ready to decide" makes it sound like the decision was inevitable, and that it was only a matter of the label mustering the courage or something. Strictly speaking it's accurate, but it's also a bit misleading. I think it's simpler to simply put that "Burn" was the planned lead single when "Yeah" was finished, which states the case as simply and accurately as possible.

Otherwise, this is a well-researched and reasonably comprehensive article considering it's on a 2000s pop song, and thus worthy of GA. --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 20:26, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for passing. I intended to include a section discussing the aftermath or impact of the song on Usher's career, though I could only find articles discussing Confessions rather than its individual singles. I to believe that a single with the amount of success that "Yeah!" achieved should have a comprehensive article; if I come across anything I'll definitely include it.

Regarding the pros, not to point fingers or appear ignorant, but most if not all of the sentences you pointed out were written by the previous editor who promoted the article, to which it then got demoted. I just addressed the issues that got it demoted, though clearly that wasn't enough to promote it again, so I did a major over haul, re-writing the lead, chart performance, expanding the composition, writing the synopsis, formatting as well as other things. The background and release section remained mostly intact because I didn't want to remove all the work the editor put in, and at the time it appeared in acceptable condition. Anyway, thanks again for reviewing, and I'll be sure to take your suggestions into consideration. Et3rnal 21:23, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

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