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Could someone knowledgable in the subject checked the recent edits by User:58.105.95.193 - other edits in the same session by this IP have been vandalism, but this edit looks mostly legit. -- Chuq 23:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics[edit]

I remember this song having the line "say goodnight and sleep together," but every time I hear it now it says "stay together." I found a reference to the song originally being banned on radio due to using the line "sleep together." Was the line dubbed at some point? Lord Bodak 05:29, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

yes it was 24.229.133.4 (talk) 14:58, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Roger and Me[edit]

Cultural reference should discuss Roger and Me, the Michael Moore Film, which discusses the song at considerable length, in reference to feelings of hopelessness in rust belt Flint. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.9.199.185 (talk) 16:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Genre?[edit]

Soft rock? Pop? Who makes up this? As far as I'm informed, this single, as part of Pet Sounds, belongs to the baroque pop genre. --186.87.18.30 (talk) 04:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Key and Lyle Ritz[edit]

Under "Composition", the article currently states:

It was written largely in A major with a concurrent melodic bass line in D major, something which was mistaken as an error by bassist Lyle Ritz: "[The] rest of the band was in another key. I knew that was wrong. So during a break, I looked at everybody else’s music to see if it was a mistake. Because you can’t do that. But he [Brian] pulled it off."

First of all, we start out factually wrong. The majority of the song is in F major. True, it has a brief introduction in A major, and the bridge is (entirely) in D major (yes, it is), but the main body of the song is unquestionably F major, with the sequence of F, B-flat, Gm, and C7.

Yes, the bridge is entirely in D. Of course, I can't dispute the legitimacy of the Lyle Ritz quote. Sure, he said it, but what he said is just ignorant and misleading. To him, it might have looked like other players were playing a constant A-to-D sequence, but really, the sequence is: Dmaj9, Gmaj9, F#m7, Bm7. A major ninth chord contains the triad of its V chord (i.e., a Dmaj9 contains an A major triad, and a Gmaj9 contains a D major triad) and a minor seventh chord contains the triad of its relative major (so F#m7 contains an A triad, and Bm7 contains a D triad).

So, sure, it may look like the upper instruments were playing in a different key than the bass, but no. It's a beautiful bit of music, but it's not something experimentally insane (whereas "Let's Go Away for Awhile" really does get insane, with a D major chord over an F-natural bass).

My source on this would be the current songbook. Because I'm a musician and I don't just believe everything one session player says, just because it seems impressive.

I don't actually edit articles anymore; it's not worth the hassle. I don't have enough make-believe awards and pseudo-superiority to actually edit an article. Somehow, I spent over a decade making substantial edits which are still here today, but I did most of it unregistered. So I never became part of the Sea Org. Someone else can Keep Wikipedia Working.

--Ben Culture (talk) 12:43, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware that WIBN is in F and D major but I'm not sure that disproves that Brian did not write his charts in those keys anyway. For the arrangements, he would layer multiple voicings in ludicrously complicated ways.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 16:12, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,21879.msg524314.html#msg524314

I THINK I can explain this. The arpeggio guitar part in the middle section of WIBN (which repeats the intro of the song) is played in A. But the bass part is in D. If you combine the two, i.e. of you play an A chord with a D in the bass, you get (I think) a Dmaj9 chord. So the middle bit is essentialy in D, but PLAYED IN ISOLATION, the guitar arpeggio sounds like it's in A.

Thought this was informative. --Ilovetopaint (talk) 22:35, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Good article[edit]

I think it's a Good Article, as it follows the good article criteria (well written, verifiable with no original research, broad in its coverage, neutral and stable, althrough it is not much illustrated). But I did't edit anything from article "Wouldn't Be Nice", and so I can't just nominate a good article. Do you agree with this nomination and, in case of yes, can you nominate it?Lovemike5 (talk) 19:25, 7 June 2021 Lovemike5 (talk) 19:26, 7 June 2021 (UTC) Lovemike5[reply]

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