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WikiProject Ancient Egypt to-do list:

Needed articles.

We should have an article on every pyramid and every nome in Ancient Egypt. I'm sure the rest of us can think of other articles we should have.

Cleanup.

To start with, most of the general history articles badly need attention. And I'm told that at least some of the dynasty articles need work. Any other candidates?

Standardize the Chronology.

A boring task, but the benefit of doing it is that you can set the dates !(e.g., why say Khufu lived 2589-2566? As long as you keep the length of his reign correct, or cite a respected source, you can date it 2590-2567 or 2585-2563)

Stub sorting

Anyone? I consider this probably the most unimportant of tasks on Wikipedia, but if you believe it needs to be done . . .

Data sorting.

This is a project I'd like to take on some day, & could be applied to more of Wikipedia than just Ancient Egypt. Take one of the standard authorities of history or culture -- Herotodus, the Elder Pliny, the writings of Breasted or Kenneth Kitchen, & see if you can't smoothly merge quotations or information into relevant articles. Probably a good exercise for someone who owns one of those impressive texts, yet can't get access to a research library.

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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 28 January 2019 and 18 May 2019. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Zoeyzhou824.

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Untitled[edit]

Mostly translated from the French Wikipedia article Place de la femme dans l'Égypte antique, with a bibiography, images and a couple of subsections added.

OttawaAC (talk) 00:46, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Women in Ancient Egypt had a status that may seem surprisingly modern because they were when compared to the status women occupied in the majority of contemporary societies."

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89.189.19.109 (talk) 17:15, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect use of parenthesis?[edit]

Tiyi wife of (Amenhotep III)
Shouldn't it be Tiyi (wife of Amenhotep III) instead? There are four such cases.--Adûnâi (talk) 11:40, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I know this was 3 yrs ago but the way you correct it is grammatically correct. Zachdgowen83 (talk) 22:17, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template move[edit]

The "History of Egypt" template is located in the middle of a sentence and needs to be moved. I don't know how to make this change, so I'm hoping someone who does will see this! --Npa213 Talk|Contrib 22:36, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Why is a template concerning the list of Egyptian dynasties in this article? It does not concern dynastic history. Dimadick (talk) 09:43, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion[edit]

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Bias[edit]

I'm no Egyptologist, but from what I can tell the article seems incredibly biased compared to other modern interpretations of Egypt? It seems almost as if the writers were purposefully looking for ways to put the Ancient Egyptians down while ignoring many of the ways in which women and men had considerable equality, cherry-picking examples from specific times such as the Amarna Period to paint all of Egypt in broad strokes. Huge chunks of the article have barely any references and the references which are provided don't paint women as negatively as the writer suggests. In fact, despite the entire article being incredibly negative towards the position of women, most of the sources are overwhelmingly positive about them to the point that you will have an extremely negative interpretation of women, which is "backed up" by a rather positive or neutral source (e.g., Egyptian royalty being patrilineal is portrayed as if it is some great example of female inferiority in Ancient Egypt even though the source doesn't state that while also ignoring more positive or neutral interpretations of why that was the case such as that Ancient Egyptian kings were male because they were the personifications of male deities). It's actually quite funny how many neutral things are incredibly misinterpreted as negative (such as men being served by men and women being served being women), how many negative things have absolutely no source, and how many positive sources are hurriedly skimmed over. I wouldn't even know where to begin fixing it especially since New Kingdom information is lumped in with Old Kingdom information and so on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.190.167 (talk) 04:20, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In need of rewrite[edit]

I’m sure this comment is totally useless and if I want something rewritten I should do it myself, but I felt the least I could do was bring attention to it. Large swathes of this article are borderline unreadable, in particular most of the marriage section, most of which strikes a strange tone and some of which is simply nonsensical.

Nearly an hour ago I resolved to improve the wording of the section without changing any matters of fact, but eventually I became so bewildered by the paragraph that I determined my (lack of) knowledge on the subject wouldn’t be sufficient to avoid any potential major errors, and unfortunately I’m not so motivated as to actually read up on the sources to make a ground-up rewrite, especially with the knowledge that as a new contributor, there’s decent odds my changes might be undone.

In short, I’m mostly hoping to let any of you people more responsible or devoted than me know that this is one that probably needs work. It seems to me that (for the most part) the sources are here, but the actual wording of the article throughout is difficult to parse, incorrect in its tone, and in general unpleasant to read. Thanks to whoever is reading this, whenever that happens. Ciao. 2600:1004:B12D:3232:FC85:CBF7:D919:E5A (talk) 14:00, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]