Talk:What a Way to Go: Life at the End of Empire

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Criticism[edit]

Removed whole section criticism because all content was original unreferenced opinions. Wikipedia is not a movie review site. A section titled criticism is warranted only if you can refer to common criticism in various notable reviews. --Miikka Raninen (talk) 19:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The filmakers did not sight any peer reveiwed journals in there supplimentary materials they provided as sources for the documentary, should the film be described as an opinion piece due to the lack of scholarly citation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.237.222.1 (talk) 23:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The article currently states "The documentary features current data and recent interviews by anarcho-primitivists Daniel Quinn and Derrick Jensen and academics such as Richard Heinberg and many others."

Labelling Daniel Quinn as an anarcho-primitivist is highly inaccurate, as he is neither an anarchist, nor a primitivist.

Although certain segments of the anarchist movement have found his observations to justify their ideologies, Quinn himself has repeatedly stated that he is not much interested in anarchism. In an interview ( http://www.ishmael.org/Education/Writings/interview.shtml ) he was asked what are his thoughts on anarchism. Here is his answer:

"I would say that there's an element of what I'm saying in anarchism, rather than that there's an element of anarchism in what I'm saying. Governments are okay for taking care of streets and delivering mail, but they aren't constituted to do what we must do to save ourselves. My position on governments is, let them go on fixing the streets and delivering the mail while we get on with the business of saving the world. If anarchism holds that all governments should be abolished, I guess I don't have much interest in anarchism; it would be too much work to abolish them."

As to whether or not he might be labelled a primitivist, here is an excerpt from his book Beyond Civilisation: "Given the realities of our situation, going back to the hunting-gathering life is as silly an idea as sprouting wings and flying off to heaven. We can walk away from the pyramid, but we can't melt away into the jungle. The Mayan solution is utterly gone for us, for the simple reason that the jungle itself is gone and there are six billion of us. Forget about going back. There is no back. Back is gone."

Therefore I am changing the aforementioned sentence to "The documentary features current data and recent interviews by Daniel Quinn, anarcho-primitivist Derrick Jensen and academics such as Richard Heinberg and many others." 86.127.186.205 (talk) 11:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update time references[edit]

Because it is just a few days before 2010, I'm changing the phrase "current data and recent interviews" to "supporting data and interviews". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.131.53 (talk) 04:14, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]