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Sad to see such a great man like him gone, he had an amazing voice. Best country singer ever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.137.212.218 (talk • contribs)

Collaboration with Other Artists[edit]

Does anyone have material about Jennings's working with the Grateful Dead at some point? I recall reading an article to this effect in the SF Chronicle some years back. Waylon opened for the Grateful Dead in San Francisco back in 1969. 137.79.69.169 (talk) 23:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know anything about Waylon opening for The Dead in SF in '69. I can tell you (because I was there) that The Dead played at Kezar Stadium in San Francisco on May 26, 1973, and Waylon was the 2nd billing. The opening act was The New Riders of the Purple Sage. This is noteworthy for several reasons. It was announced during Bill Graham's introduction of Waylon and his band that this was the first time Waylon would play in a front of a large audience, i.e. his first big concert. Though Waylon looked a little shy and intimidated by the huge stadium crowd (I was in the very front and could see facial expressions), he didn't need to. He was superb (as were the NRPS and the Dead). This one concert in front of a huge GD fan crowd instantly grew Waylon's fan base and I'm sure helped boost his career. He was just starting his "Outlaw" stuff and this expanded his fan base beyond the Country-Western fans to the hippie crowd, whose adoration was obvious from the cheering and standing ovations. I'm sure that the Dead and NRPS folks, with their background in country music, treated the authentic Waylon and his band like royalty backstage, though surely with less formality. Other reasons this concert was significant: it was the first "Day on the Green" concert, that would become a series in the SF Bay Area for many following years with many other famous mostly-rock artists. And this concert has become a cult favorite among Deadheads as one of the very best (many say in the top 10) GD concerts of their long litany of live concerts (verifiable at archive.org). Waylon Jennings and his marvelous performance helped make it a historic concert to me and many others.SanJoseRobert (talk) 19:10, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

According to his own biography, Waylon felt that the audience of The Dead was too young to like him and wasn't all that interested in his act. But he attributes to this concert, his appearance in Max's Kansas City and the Palomino performances along with interviews for big magazines he did at the time that word got around about him. It should make a good addition for the article, I'll work on it.--GDuwenTell me! 18:08, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Drugs[edit]

In this edit I removed some unreferenced comments relating to drug use by the subject. If you have questions drop a note on my talk page or read Wikipedia:Verifiability#Burden of evidence. Jeepday (talk) 21:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not a great bass player Waylon never rose to prominence as a bass player. He played on the one tour, badly, and suffered years in the wilderness before becoming a country srar. Jim Birkenshaw (talk) 21:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

" A private courier warned the Drug Enforcement Administration about the package sent to Jennings by a New York colleague that contained 27 grams of cocaine. The DEA and the police searched Jennings's recording studio. They found no evidence, because while they were waiting for a search warrant, Jennings disposed of the cocaine." Nothing like this ever occurred, it is completely made up and detracts from this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.55.204 (talk) 19:02, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Waylon Jennings, and Lubbock Radio by Johnny Hughes[edit]

The large section that follows this line contains some stuff relevant to the subject, but most of it isn't. I don't want to erase it, because it's an interesting piece, and should be referenced in the article. Could some other editor go through it, cut it down to Jennings-only stuff, and provide a reference to the quote as a whole? Koro Neil (talk) 21:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Waylon Jennings, Johnny Cash & Folsom Prison[edit]

Waylon Jennings says he was incarcerated in Folsom Prison during the recording of Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison, in an interview with Terry Gross on "Fresh Air" Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 04:38, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

^^^That was Merle Haggard...he caught one of Johnny's gigs at at San Quentin.....doodz. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.231.110 (talk) 07:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiki vandalism in articles Waylon Jennings and Jessi Colter[edit]

Maybe with other IPs, but those three ones have sure made vandalisms. For 18 months... I have added semi-protection, for six months, on French articles fr:Waylon Jennings and fr:Jessi Colter. If you have a better idea to stop this person, please leave us a message on FR . Hégésippe | ±Θ± 20:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hégésippe, I have responded on your discussion page here at EN. Joyous! | Talk 22:22, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Waylon's mom[edit]

In the current article, this sentence appears: "On March 22, 2006, Jennings' mother Lorene Beatrice (née Shipley) Jennings died in Littlefield, Texas, at the age of 64." That would mean she was born in 1942. But the article says Waylon himself was born in 1937, so this is clearly impossible. Probably just a typo or something. I've never edited anything in wikipedia before and I don't feel like researching Waylon Jennings's mother, but for anybody who cares, it's obviously an error...69.69.223.2 (talk) 23:30, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Waylon Jennings/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Grandiose (talk · contribs) 12:13, 18 June 2012 (UTC) I'll be taking this review. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 12:13, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Opening comments[edit]

Reference #13 needs some more details, I think. The passage Holly jokingly told Jennings... killing all on board. which it support seems rather, well, apocryphal, hence the need to have the source thrashed out a bit.

Agree. I added more citations to another book.--GDuwenTell me! 17:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Coverage seems good enough for GA, although I think there are areas where it could be considerably improved. The "legacy" section is devoid of the usual mentions of artistes who were influenced by the subject. There are also several mentions about much touring, which only appears to be briefly covered in the main biography part.

I could expand something about the artists he influenced. About the tours, it might not be too important unless there's a notable fact about one or several of them. Artists like him toured most of the year, so I try to focus on those ones that were important for his career, such as the Winter Dance Party, Lollapalooza. Maybe should I add something about the Dripping Springs Reunion?--GDuwenTell me! 17:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Waylon Jennings Promotional Picture cropped.JPG's licence doesn't quite make sense; one does not publish something under a public domain expired-type licence. Also it would be nice to have the details at File:Waylon Jennings Promotional Picture.jpg given to support its copyright status. Other images fine.

Well that's right, nobody does publish something in an expired PD license. The picture was published in 1965, and it is in PD because it does not meet the conditions given by the United States Copyright Office for works published between 1923-77. Anyway, I uploaded another version of the card to the commons that should prove that there was no copyright mark anywhere on the portrait. (File:Waylon Jennings Promotional picture for RCA Records.jpg) The small letters under RCA Victor say "The most trusted name in sound".--GDuwenTell me! 17:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Will review the copy later. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 12:23, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to review the article, the nomination has been open for a while now.--GDuwenTell me! 17:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

Prose generally good, could we link the radio stations in the lead and perhaps introduce them as such? To a non-US person, this four-letter radio station thing is a bit alien.

Done.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Country Song Roundup, issue 102" is not called that in the references?

I changed it to CSR staff.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ref #52 should mention allmusic.com I think.

Done.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Weatherby, Gregg" only appears as #83, is there a supporting full reference entry I've missed? Ditto "Laufenberg, Norbert" (#77) - which seems to be a vanity press and not an RS. (Oh, btw, the "&dq=Waylon+jennings+cocaine+diabetes" in the URL for that tells me what you searched for. It should be removed in other refs.) Ditto Reid, Jan (#33 and #34). Ditto Birk, Carl (#51 and #70). I assume there aren't supporting entries; there should be. You might want to cut down on the other materials given in the bibliography (or you could merely add to them).

I added Weatherby, Birk and Reid to the books and fixed the citations. I think that Laufenberg is reliable but I removed it anyway.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ref #62, you misread it: it says "Ritchie Valens". Can't be the author unless something very odd is going on.

I suppose that the news was tagged under Ritchie Valens, since there is not any author indicated, I removed the author field.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ref #42 should be "Lewis" to make it work.

Fixed.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 20:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All done, waiting for more.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I missed "Manfield, Ken" in the category above. (Also, Ashby, LeRoy and Huang, Hao don't use the harv format of the others; clearly this is not a GA thing.)

That's all, though; the prose is slightly odd in places but is not wrong. If you wanted to take this further you'll need a lot more content, so it doesn't seem worthwhile tweaking all the prose to higher standards at this stage. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 10:48, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm just aiming to GA only by now. I'll fix those refs.--GDuwenTell me! 15:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--GDuwenTell me! 22:55, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First paragraph of 'Early life' section[edit]

I revised the first paragraph of the 'Early life' section. As it was, it made no sense—evidently a sentence had been removed, a sentence that actually linked the parents to Waylon. I found the deleted sentence in the history about a year back, and restored it. I do not have access to the references cited, so the reconstructed first paragraph needs review. — Neonorange (Phil) 00:18, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

High School[edit]

Where did he go for high school?--Artaxerxes (talk) 13:49, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy[edit]

The second paragraph under "Legacy" could include another award: Waylon Jennings was a Horatio Algers Award recipient in 1988. SOURCE: https://horatioalger.org/members/member-detail/waylon-jennings

Also, in the third paragraph under "Legacy" the name "Waylon" appears as one of the people influenced by Waylon Jennings. If it is some other Waylon, the last name should be added; otherwise, the name "Waylon" appears to be floating randomly in that sentence and should be removed. 184.105.43.250 (talk) 16:25, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]