A fact from Walt Nauta appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 June 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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I think the article needs more info on his military career. Perhaps this is obvious to Americans but I imagine for many non-Americans it's very unclear how someone could follow Trump after he left the White House if they are still working in the military, and even get paid by a PAC a month before their military career ended. I would guess this most likely means Nauta was in the reserves from at least the end of Trump's presidency, but maybe ex-presidents are allowed to have active duty military personnel as their aides even after their presidency ends (perhaps related to secret service protection). Either way I'm fairly sure I'm not the only one confused by this. Nil Einne (talk) 11:35, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you. I am American and it's not obvious to me. Pha telegrapher (talk) 16:55, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If I had the information, I would. 89.205.63.101 (talk) 19:32, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Without there being RS information to address Nil's question, I'm unclear how to address Nil's "needs more info" statement. For example, while there is a submarine base in Georgia known as Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay, I am unaware of RS support indicating that that is the base referred to in the article.--2603:7000:2101:AA00:7468:9C4F:BECE:5B21 (talk) 08:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am not an expert editor. I usually stick to grammar errors or typos. I have read comments along the lines of “reads like a news magazine piece”, and I would comment here that to me this reads almost like a gossip magazine piece. Just my opinion. William.quay (talk) 11:42, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As it's written at this point, it seems to me to be entirely encyclopedic and focused on relevant facts. Toddst1 (talk) 13:06, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Overall: Needs one proper ref, and QPQ.Also, the last three sentences need a bit of polishing, to explain "all case-related discussions" with whom.2603:7000:2101:AA00:A491:803D:ABC:2E20 (talk) 21:15, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
a) As to the mentioned discussion of case-related discussions, I still find the article unclear. Discussions with whom? The text should clarify that. b) prior comment was that "one (indicated with tag) statement needs a ref". That has now been addressed. c) QPQ had not been done, but now has been done.2603:7000:2101:AA00:A491:803D:ABC:2E20 (talk) 04:53, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just removed the line because it wasn't additive Longhornsg (talk) 05:04, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Now good to go. But I have a preferred suggestion. See Alt 1 above. Add the words “on a silver platter.” Much more powerful. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:A491:803D:ABC:2E20 (talk) 06:21, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer ALT0 as more accurate since the silver platter was not always involved. I have formatted one reference in the article and archived others. I am concerned by the 73% Earwig score. The two sites with the 73% match are hard to get to. Bruxton (talk) 22:59, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I’m unclear as to the basis for your assertion. The RS does not say “sometimes.” Rather - It says “In Mr Trump’s case, this would reportedly involve bringing him Diet Cokes on a silver platter when he pressed the presidential call button on the Resolute desk in the Oval Office.” There’s no way to read “sometimes but not all the time” into that - which is what you assert. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:B8E7:A9D8:D8B8:C23C (talk) 08:30, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@RoySmith: Can I get your opinion on the Earwig score and the possibility of mirrors? Bruxton (talk) 14:56, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The elephant in the room is tempoonline.com.ng. I looked in archive.org to see if they had any history for the page. They don't. That doesn't prove anything (but finding history which predated our article would pretty much have proved that we copied from them). But overall, tempoonline.com.ng sure looks like some crappy click-bait SEO spam sewer. So I wouldn't worry about it. Further down the list, there's text in common with usatoday.com, etc, but it all looks like stuff that couldn't be phrased any other way, so also nothing to worry about. RoySmith(talk) 15:30, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rephrasing and trimming ALT0 (I feel the additional length of ALT1 actually inhibits the hook's strength) to produce the following:
@RoySmith:@Bruxton:@AirshipJungleman29: Appreciate your work on this. Given the subject's high profile in the news right now, thoughts on adding the picture of Nauta from his article to the DYK? It's sourced from the US Federal Government, so no copyright issues there.
I'm still (I'm the above IP, who did the QPQ) partial to including the "on a silver platter" phrase with whatever hook we go with. Given its common usage, it provides powerful context and greater hookiness in my view. As to the image, I was wondering as well. My only hesitation is whether it is high enough quality. I'm 50-50 on that myself.2603:7000:2101:AA00:602C:68B0:7AF5:B5D4 (talk) 20:25, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
is this guy really notable? seems like the only claim to notability/notoriety is fact is that he is potentially a co-criminal with someone famous? 67.220.13.96 (talk) 21:36, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. WP:CRIME says in part The motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy—such that it is a well-documented historic event. That's met here. Also note that the article was already nominated for deletion - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walt Nauta - and was kept by strong consensus. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:43, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
i mean - its not - there are dozens of people who attempt to obstruct justice by hiding evidence every year.
neither the crime nor the method of committing the crime are anything astoundingly unusual.
the ONLY thing unusual is that the co-accused is the expresident.
as a person, nauta is a mere footnote 67.220.13.96 (talk) 23:07, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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