Talk:Władysław Grydziuszko

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Removal of conditions on use of sources[edit]

I have removed the following material from the accompanying article's ref section, and i strike it thru on this talk page for clarity that it is merely exhibited here and not asserted:

Note: References 1 through 6 are a collection of original documentation by the APC Polish Enquiries, Ministry of Defence and the RAF. These letters are not to be reproduced without permission. Documentation is provided by great-nephew Patrick Camil Grydziuszko.

I've thought so far of four reasons for removal:

  1. The numbering of the references may change as other refs are added to the article. (In fact, they already have, in the course of routinely removing redundant Reflist items.)
  2. The letters apparently do not appear on WP, nor may they do so if the stated restriction against reproduction without permission has any legal force whatsoever: WP refuses to use material subject to such restriction, even if permission to do so is granted. Only public-domain or GFDL-licensed material may appear.
  3. The "Note" added to the article by Silent99 ambiguously insinuates that obligations are imposed on WP as a result of WP's citation and/or paraphrasing and/or summary, of material on the Web site that the article cites, and it gives the appearance of being an assertion by WP to that effect. In fact our apparent right to use the material in the way that we are (and with or without the removed material) rests, since all other editors' contributions to the article have been copy-editing rather than adding further substance to Silent99's contributions, on our good-faith presumption that the executions of the GFDL by User:Silent99 have all been within Silent99's legal authority to execute that license with respect to the content of the corresponding edits.
  4. The assertion of the removed material within an article, and using the word "these", may constitute a violation of WP's prohibition of "issu[ing] legal threats on or through Wikipedia".

--Jerzyt 10:00, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]



I, the author of this article would like to mention that your point (#4) is a reference to reproducing the material from the original website, and not of the Wikipedia article. I have released this information in accordance to the GFDL license. I agree with taking that note off from this article, as it does not provide any important historical information. --Silent99t
—Preceding undated comment was added at 20:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

  • Thanks, that does help IMO. Sorry if i sounded harsh; GFDL is a hugely important issue for the project (tho it usually doesn't come up in this way.
    --Jerzyt 07:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • No problem, thank you for looking over the page, I appreciate your contributions. All the best. --Silent99 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.189.132.164 (talk) 21:08, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]