Talk:Vocalises (Ivanovs)

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Did you know... that the Vocalises by Jānis Ivanovs were said to express "a longing for humanity"?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 17:26, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Vocalises by Jānis Ivanovs drew upon his childhood experiences as a refugee in World War I? Source: "But the impulse to draw from [Ivanovs'] memories came directly from 'Autumn Song' and the vocalises that followed. More specifically: as a refugee during the First World War, the very young Ivanovs ended up in Vitebsk and Smolensk, where he sang in church choirs as an alto before his voice broke, thus becoming acquainted with the liturgical compositions of the Russian composers Bortnyansky, Tchaikovsky, and Rachmaninoff. From these, presumably, come the resigned chromatic tones that make up half of the color palette of the vocalises." [1]
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- Comment: ~~QPQ coming later.~~ I might be able squeeze one more ALT out of this.

Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:33, 24 October 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Vocalises (Ivanovs); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

@CurryTime7-24: Have you been able to come up with additional hooks? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:58, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Narutolovehinata5, Give me a few hours. I will try! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:32, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@CurryTime7-24: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:07, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Please bear with me. I'll be busy for the next day, but will return with a couple of new ALTs and possibly a little more new material on Saturday (PST). —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 06:24, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Working on this now. Been held up, but I've not forgotten this DYK nom! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:41, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for hanging in there. How about this?

ALT1 ... that the Vocalises by Jānis Ivanovs were said to express "a longing for humanity, away from dictatorship, [and] ideological directives" that characterized the Latvian zeitgeist of the 1960s and 1970s? Source: Ibid. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:29, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Full review needed now that requested new hook has been provided. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:49, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Long enough, new enough. No copyright issues found, no maintenance templates found, no neutrality issues found. QPQ done. ALT1 is interesting but only just short enough, and that quote looks like it's been butchered to fit 200 characters (it actually says "a longing for humanity, away from dictatorship, ideological directives and unification"). I'd go so far as to end the hook at 'humanity'. In addition, the archive.ph screenshot saved the article as a picture, meaning the pdf doesn't actually work.--Laun chba ller 00:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for jumping into this DYK. Was starting to lose hope! OK, how about these?

ALT2 ... that the Vocalises by Jānis Ivanovs were said to express "a longing for humanity"?
ALT3 ... that the "longing for humanity" expressed in the Vocalises by Jānis Ivanovs are characteristic of Latvia in the 1960s and 1970s? —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:53, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Both check out, my preference is ALT2. Good to go.--Laun chba ller 15:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ordered list[edit]

I added an indention to the ordered list because at least on mobile view, the list was going outside the margins, something I have never seen before. Adding the indent seems to have solved the problem. Viriditas (talk) 01:30, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]