Talk:Vinteuil Sonata

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Picture[edit]

Proust writes specifically he's dipping not a biscuit, but a madeleine (cake) into his tisane filled with tea. Thus the image should be replaced. (Since one can get these cake/cookies easily at most Starbuck's, I could take a photo myself, but I don't have a fancy teacup that would resemble a tisane.) - kosboot (talk) 01:11, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I searched on flickr the terms "madeleine" and "tea" and saw some images which may be suitable.--Thoughtfortheday (talk) 21:42, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I photographed a co-worker (who uses loose tea, i.e. tisane) dipping a madeleine. Hope to put the pic on Commons by the weekend and then people can see how they feel. - kosboot (talk) 17:07, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For "piano and violin"[edit]

A section of this article claims that the naming of a violin sonata as "for piano and violin" was unusual whereas "for violin and piano" would be the normal. This is supported by a quote from the Bulletin Marcel Proust of 2002. This bulletin is obviously not a musicological product. It is true that today a violin sonata is usually described as "for violin and piano", but in and before Proust's time this was not at all the case. I don't know of a secondary source to prove my point, but what I just did is the following:

I called up the online catalogue of the Bibliothèque nationale de France (the French national library): http://catalogue.bnf.fr,
clicked on "recherche avancée" (for 'advanced search'), came to this page: http://catalogue.bnf.fr/recherche-avancee.do?pageRech=rav,
changed the first search term to "titre" (for 'title') and typed in the words "pour piano et violon". In the line "par nature de document" I chose "Musique notée" (to get a listing of all musical works they have that carry "for piano and violin" (in French) in their title,
clicked on "Lancer la recherche" to start the search,
and got 2,621 works/references.

Have a try. The author of the article in the Bulletin Marcel Proust of 2002 is quite obviously phenomenally wrong. – Aklein62 (talk) 17:42, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing this out!--Thoughtfortheday (talk) 18:47, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]