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Wikidata: mess[edit]

There is a problem with the relevant Wikidata entries. Currently, the depopulated Palestinian village of Al-'Ubaydiyya has the Wikidata entry Q4702134 (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4702134). But the tell, Tell Ubeidiya, as an archaeological site, also has its own entry, as item Q2660882 (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2660882), which somebody connected to the prehistorical site of Ubeidiya, and that is totally WRONG. The tell (Tell Ubeidiya) is 400 m away from the site of Ubeidiya, and archaeologically speaking, the tell isn't even excavated and is of relatively little interest, as it is one among many Bronze & Iron Age tells in the region. Whereas Ubeidiya is the second-oldest site with traces of humans outside Africa. A difference of some 1,4 million years, 400 m, and a huge one in magnitude of scientific importance.

We need to decouple/disconnect Q2660882 (the tell) from Ubeidiya, and either connect it to Al-'Ubaydiyya (which, however, already has its own Wikidata entry, Q4702134), or leave it orphaned until the tell gets its own article, which might never happen. As far as I know, Tell Ubeidiya was the core location of Al-'Ubaydiyya, but the Wikidata entry concentrates on the tell being a very old archaeological site (be it the wrong one), not a relatively recent historical site. Right now, Tell Ubeidiya is only mentioned on Wikipedia as a sideline on the Ubeidiya page, and is there just because the confusion is so common and because the tell doesn't have a page of its own as an archaeological site. Wikidata is not my field, we have a big mess, maybe somebody who's more familiar with Wikidata can offer a solution. Thanks, Arminden (talk) 16:43, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]