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Hi y'all, I just wanted to put on the talk page what I edited! I changed the origin sub-heading to Etymology, and moved one of the paragraphs down to the history section I added, because I felt that it made more sense that way, was more coherent, etc. I added the first two paragraphs and a few sources to the history section, going into the background of the word to examine its racial ties, and how today this is seen perpetuated.

I added the code under the sub-heading 'usage,' as condensed some of the previous information as it was not all about history but mentioned pop culture as well. Thus, I made a pop culture heading and put this information here, and also referenced a source which defines the term as a subculture within today's setting, so readers may understand it through this lense as well. Lastly, I briefly added a sentence or two about its usage on grindr, and linked some other wiki pages throughout the article. Currently waiting for my peers to review. Thanks a bunch! Roger.chat (talk) 00:52, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

also I just wanted to add that twink is racially coded, and while porn may offer 'Black twinks,' this would more so fall under fetishization! Roger.chat (talk) 00:54, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Roger.chat: I've taken a look at the additions, which were mainly the Etymology bit and the creation of the History section. Although they are well sourced, your writing reads like an essay and has aspects of original research, and a bit of rewriting could be done to conform to general content guidelines. I will look at copyediting/rewriting it later, when I have time to do so. Thanks, and happy editing :) Vermont (talk) 01:17, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Vermont: Thank you very much for your feedback, I appreciate it immensely! I am currently an undergraduate student and understand your concerns in regards to original research and the way it reads, and I am taking a second look and will try my best to rewrite/reconstruct in an unbiased manner. Sorry for any inconveniences, and once again thank you. Roger.chat (talk) 18:21, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Roger.chat: It's my first glance at this page in a while, and I noticed those additions - to be quite frank, here, it's a bit like reading the Redstocking's critiques of homosexuality. It comes across as speculative analysis with little consideration for context. Susan Driver seems a lot more confident in the whiteness of the label than most actual gay people would be - which is very strange to me. I'm not going to dig through sources today to find something to knock your paragraphs off the page, but I do think that they depict a fairly fringe analysis with way more weight than it deserves. The viewpoint may exist (the Redstockings wrote views at length, too), but I don't think that necessarily makes it authoritative. Sorry to ridicule without offering to fix it, though. (Albert Mond (talk) 12:11, 13 February 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Photo[edit]

Sexual identity/membership in a particular sexual subculture is a sensitive WP:BLP area. We don't have any indication that the two people in the lead photograph self-identify as twinks. (The photo was added a few months ago by a sockpuppetteer who made various other questionable image choices.) Cheers, gnu 57 02:18, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Genericusername57: How about restoring File:Capital Gay Pride parade in Albany New York 2009.jpg to the article in its place, then? See LGBT_stereotypes#Appearance_and_mannerisms, which also uses the image and describes the subject as "generally considered twink-ish". I'd also say it's a better image for the purpose of illustrating the subject. —C.Fred (talk) 02:53, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@C.Fred: Sure, feel free. It's probably better that the person shown is a celebrity/media figure rather than just some private individual. Cheers, gnu 57 03:25, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 11:50, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Photos of people[edit]

No photos of people should be used here without some context to the photo that implies the subject's consent to be identified as a twink. Zanahary (talk) 10:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]