Talk:Tulainyo Lake

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Did you know... that in 1937, water from Tulainyo Lake (pictured) was carried by runner, horseback, donkey, covered wagon, twenty-mule team, stagecoach, train, car, and plane to Death Valley to mark a highway opening?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by CSJJ104 (talk) 20:41, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Tulainyo Lake viewed from Mount Russell

... that in 1937, water from Tulainyo Lake (pictured) was carried by runner, horseback, burro, covered wagon, twenty-mule team, stagecoach, train, car, and plane to Death Valley to mark a highway opening? Source: "Wedding of the Waters – California's Gold (110)". Huell Howser Archives at Chapman University. 1999-08-12. Retrieved 2022-08-25. https://blogs.chapman.edu/huell-howser-archives/1999/08/12/71/
- ALT1: ... that in 1937, water from Tulainyo Lake (pictured) was carried by runner, horseback, burro, covered wagon, twenty-mule team, stagecoach, train, car, and plane to Death Valley to fête a new highway? Source: Crowley, Fr. John J. "The Wedding of the Waters" (PDF). Owens Valley History. Retrieved 2022-08-25. http://www.owensvalleyhistory.com/stories/wedding_of_waters.pdf
- Reviewed: QPQ-exempt (first nomination)
- Comment: Picture not necessarily needed if it impacts character count too much! First DYK nom so open to guidance if I've messed up somewhere.

Created by Penitentes (talk). Self-nominated at 17:47, 29 August 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Save a couple characters: twenty-mule >> 20-mule jengod (talk) 05:57, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 2 SUGGESTION: ... that in 1935, California's Tulainyo Lake (pictured) was (incorrectly) thought to be the highest-elevation alpine lake on the North American continent? SOURCE: "Highest Lake in America Discovered in California". Los Angeles Times. 1935-10-17. p. 23. Retrieved 2022-08-25.
This is not a formal review but it looks like a beautiful new article! Congrats. jengod (talk) 06:08, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Doing... –LordPickleII (talk) 16:43, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - a few uncited parts
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: There are some uncited parts: The entire last paragraph in Geography, which ends with A fisherman's use trail extends from the JMT to Wallace Lake., the sentence The pair dove to a depth of approximately 30 feet for 15 minutes. in Other events, and most of the first paragraph in Climate and ecology, which ends in and may leave only through evaporation or seepage. – these all need a reference at the paragraph end.

As for the hooks, ALT0 and ALT1 are quite long, but they are still clearly within the 200 char hard limit, since per WP:DYKHOOK instances of "(pictured)" are not counted. This is picked up correctly by our fancy hook-length counter see here for this nom (which for some reason I only just noticed we have linked in the toolbox). I would discard ALT1 as basically the same except for marginally less characters, because I didn't know "fête" and might have had trouble to understand it. –LordPickleII (talk) 18:32, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Penitentes: Any progress with this? –LordPeterII (talk) 18:54, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I just checked and the issues have been adressed for some time. I just didn't notice, because there was no feedback here. Approving now, with preference for ALT0 as catchier (ALT2 is an alternative). –LordPeterII (talk) 18:56, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

no modern explorations?[edit]

One would assume National Geo has gone there, at least? No dives of any importance, no catching of the fauna in the lake? 50.111.15.193 (talk) 20:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not to any general knowledge, no! The lake was at least somewhat well-known in California (especially Eastern California) in the early 20th century but it's pretty much fallen off the radar since then, except for backcountry hikers/climbers/other enthusiasts. It's difficult to access and now that it's known not to be a record-holder in any way there's not much glory in determining whether it's got fish or a particularly deep lake bottom! But if you have an inflatable kayak and sonar equipment... give me a call. Penitentes (talk) 20:55, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]