Talk:Tourism in the State of Palestine

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restricted to the West Bank?[edit]

Why? There is also tourism in Gaza, and other areas as well. --Shuki (talk) 01:04, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I saw a source from prior to the Hamas-Fatah split about the PNA's Tourism Ministry operating in Gaza, but The Telegraph source says "Today, tourists are not even allowed in to the isolated, war-ravaged enclave ruled by the Islamist movement Hamas." nableezy - 01:54, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So what? This article isn't just about tourism right now, but tourism's history and infrastructure. There certainly has been tourism in Gaza in the past.--TM 06:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I didnt say anything about "what", I was explaining that meaning of the sentence in the article was about the present day. nableezy - 12:54, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tourism includes going to the beach and visiting other cities. Many pictures regularly come out of Gaza showing this takes place. --Shuki (talk) 16:37, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You mean if somebody lives by the beach and goes to the beach they are a "tourist"? Or if the visit a relative a few towns down, they are a "tourist"? Maybe, but I dont see it. nableezy - 16:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I actually agree with Shuki. According to tourism, "Tourism is travel for recreational, leisure or business purposes." Just because there is tourism in Gaza, doesn't mean the siege is any less devastating. Including information to compare Gaza's tourism industry prior to and since the siege would be enlightening, if such information exists.--TM 17:13, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Travel being the key word. Living by the beach and going for a swim in the sea does not make you a tourist. nableezy - 18:23, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Another typical example of an editor who instead of wanting to improve an article, is going to make sure that Israel looks bad in it. --Shuki (talk) 19:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That is just stupid. I did not say anything about Israel. Try not to be your usual self. nableezy - 20:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Shuki, lets not assume bad faith, ok? We don't need it. Palestinians in Gaza do travel, Nableezy. They just don't travel widely. Lets not be ridiculous. Do you really think no Palestinians in Gaza go for a vacation to the beach these days?--TM 20:16, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, they very well might. But like all things on Wikipedia, we need a source saying so. And the Gaza Strip at its widest point is 10 km from the sea. I personally would not call somebody who travels 10 km a "tourist". I lived about 10 miles from Lake Michigan. I went there quite often. At no time was I a "tourist", I was a local going to the lake. nableezy - 20:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If anyone has sources about tourism to the Gaza Strip, by all means include content on this. I noted that there's no tourism due to Hamas' restrictions as that's what was said in the sources I found, but this doesn't preclude using other sources. Why does every article on Israel/Palestine have to get such heated responses? Tourism is what reliable sources say it is, not our own opinions. Stop arguing and pontificating and instead go and find some sources! Fences&Windows 21:14, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nableezy, internal tourism is tourism. If I go to a water park or if someone flies in from out of town and goes to the same park, it is still tourism. Please check out these pictures of tourism in Gaza: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] --Shuki (talk) 16:20, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am not disagreeing just for the sake of disagreeing, nor am I doing so because "to make sure that Israel looks bad" whatever that means. I disagree because "tourism" requires travel. Yes, the person flying to the city that has a water park is a tourist, but if you live down the block from that water park and you go you are not a tourist. I have been to a ton of "tourist" sites in Chicago like the museums or the lakefront or the Sears tower or a number of other places. I was still just a local boy, not a tourist. But this is all personal interpretation (on my part and yours) and the solution for this is to actually find sources discussing tourism in Gaza. nableezy - 16:35, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is silly to even be arguing whether tourism exists in Gaza or not. Gaza is mostly closed, yes, but inside of Gaza there is freedom of movement. Logically, someone from Rafah going to Gaza City is indeed tourism. Moreover, this link, which admittedly incredibly out-dated, tells us much about the tourism industry in Gaza.--TM 17:13, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This may be of interest[edit]

Palestinian Tourism in Transition: Hope, Aspiration, or Reality? from The Journal of Tourism and Peace Research. The 'History of Tourism in Palestine' section has some potentially useful info pertinent to both Tourism in Israel and Tourism in the Palestinian territories. There are also a lot of references listed. Sean.hoyland - talk 15:09, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Sister Cities[edit]

International popularity has resulted in fifty four cities in twenty seven countries becoming twinned (Sister Cities) with Bethlehem. - Is it correct? I have found only 22 countries here [7] --იაკობ მახარაძე (talk) 20:10, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]