Talk:Thermodynamic state

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Aside from being one of the cornerstones of thermodynamics, the definition on this page is a natural stopping point in the travels of people without science background using Wikipedia to understand and make their own judgment regarding the theory of conservation of energy. It would be useful to add more material explaning the relationship of states to energy. A beginning would be to further explain that energy is uniquely determined by state. But more useful would be examples where difficuly in reproducing states has led to the discovery of new phenomena and new state variables. I believe there are examples where an apparent failure of conservation of energy has guided the discover of new forms of energy and associated new state variables that lend themselves to systematic measurement and description.Pvkeller (talk) 22:11, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Definition of State

This article starts out telling about the variables necessary to describe a state, but doesn't tell us what a state is. Christopher King (talk) 23:50, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for this comment. I will try to do something about it.Chjoaygame (talk) 01:49, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Done.Chjoaygame (talk) 02:16, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Much better. Christopher King (talk) 12:09, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

a state, in my opinion, is the first order of identification and recognition as an independent juristic entity that consists of a collection of natural variations which makeup the structure of that state. The initial outline of a state can be understood as the above, coupled intradependently with borders and boundaries that are subjected to a constitution and memorandum that describes the phenomenon within that state and the view points by those outside of that state. to add value to this, verified, authentic infomation from actual experienced external states should be compared to those internal ones in order to find a balanxe of passivity towards a state of growth. the same applies to the mind and the genitals. lmimp 152.110.109.168 (talk) 10:56, 2 May 2024 (UTC)