Talk:The One on the Right Is on the Left

This article was nominated for deletion on June 2nd, 2006. The result of the discussion was No Consensus.

The lyrics have absolutely no context and are not explained at all. They can easily be replaced with real content actually talking about the song. I can't see at all how this qualifies as fair use. --Rory096 18:12, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you actually understand fair use, or do you just enjoy wasting other people's time? ˉˉ^anetode╞┬╡ 18:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I do. You can't just say lyrics are "fair use." You assert fair use and hope like hell that you don't get a court deciding against you if someone sues for copyright infringement. To help ensure that they don't, you use as little as possible and you make sure you have a good reason for doing that. Please be civil. --Rory096 18:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use has a sort of four factor litmus test that considers the purpose, substantiality, and potential effect on commercial viability. Reproduction of an insubstantial amount of lyrics in this article qualifies as fair use because Wikipedia (or any other educational tool) has no interest in affecting the market value or prominence of the song. These lyrics are used for illustrative and educational purposes, and are specifically discussed within the context of the article.

Before you start in on some spree to delete every instance of the reproduction of lyrics on Wikipedia, consider that your knowledge may not be adequate to form an accurate judgement of copyright infringement. My knowledge of the field is very limited as well, but then I don't steadfastly ignore the judgement of other editors or pile on unnecessary workload by demanding that someone review every one of my suspect opinions. Consider your interest in this article (which will probably be deleted soon, forever remedying Wikipedia of any potential liability) and whether you are acting in good faith to improve Wikipedia, or just using this instance as an excuse to pick an argument or show off your unimpressive knowledge of the Copyright Act of 1976.

Oh, and by the way, I prefer honesty to insincere civility. ˉˉ^anetode╞┬╡ 18:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have made an effort to try to "describe" the lyrics and hopefully adequately kiss up to that one user. Wahkeenah 09:36, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Guy in the Rear[edit]

I removed the reference to "presumably the drummer" for two reasons. 1) "Presuming" anything isn't encyclopedic, and 2) the group in the song is described as "A pickin', singin' folk group" meaning that it is either a bluegrass group or an Appalachian folk group, neither of which would have a drummer. In a typical four piece group of this genre, the the three front men would typically play three of the four following instruments (possibly switching off among all four): guitar, mandolin, fiddle, and banjo. The "guy in the rear", would be the upright bass player. Fish Man (talk) 21:21, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]