Talk:Susan Rice/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Fact vs. opinion

This article is riddled with alleged statements and opinions presented as fact, with weak sourcing. A sample below:

1. "Rice was not the first choice of Congressional Black Caucus leaders, who considered her a member of "Washington's assimilationist black elite"."

The article provides no evidence backing its sweeping claim that Rice was disliked by CBC leaders, and I have found no other sources that corroborate that. That Rice was considered a member of "Washington's assimilationist black elite" is the opinion of the author, backed by zero sources. Unless there is more than this one line from one source, there is no reason to highlight this rather inflammatory characterization.

2. "Rice supported the Rwandan, Ugandan, AFDL and Angolan invasion of Zaire (later known as the Democratic Republic of the Congo) from Rwanda in 1996 and overthrow of dictator Mobutu Sese Seko, saying privately that "Anything's better than Mobutu.""

Nowhere in the cited article or anywhere else does it say that Rice supported the invasion of Zaire, yet here it is presented as fact. Further, the "anything's better than Mobutu" quote is at the very best an alleged quote, with the cited article providing as a source: "Susan Rice told one acquaintance at the time." This article should not present as fact Rice's support for a bloody conflict or a hearsay quote from an acquaintance. If it must stay, a more accurate formulation would be: "In the context of the Rwandan, Ugandan, AFDL and Angolan invasion of Zaire (later known as the Democratic Republic of the Congo) from Rwanda in 1996 and overthrow of dictator Mobutu Sese Seko, Rice is alleged to have said that "Anything's better than Mobutu.""

3. "In 2012, when serving as UN ambassador, Rice opposed efforts to publicly censure Rwandan President Paul Kagame for again supporting a Congolese rebel group..."

This is another statement, that, when reading through the cited article, is alleged. "Rice reportedly opposed efforts" would be correct in this instance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anc90 (talk • contribs) 01:46, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Biased content?

I wanted to look up Susan Rice's background as a possible VP candidate, and was really surprised at how biased this biography is. I really don't know much about her, but much of the selected comments sounds slanted and negative, and in some places sexist.Dianahc6 (talk) 23:25, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Obv an article for wikipedia veterans to keep the fuck an eye on in the next few months. Thanks for all the work yall do.138.207.198.74 (talk) 06:39, 6 July 2020 (UTC)