Talk:Strophe

Direction

I have found several different sites with differing meanings of wether the chorus moved from left to right or from right to left

http://depthome.brooklyn.cuny.edu/classics/dunkle/comedy/intro22.htm says its from left to right

www.iolani.org/usacad_eng_eng10dterms_cw9404.htm Says its from right to left

everybody agrees that the antistrophe was the other way.

I'm thinking that maybe some people recorded it from the chorus's point of view and others from the audience's point of view, thus inverting it.

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Moving to wiktionary?

I really don't think this page should be moved to wiktionary. There's a lot of theory behind strophes, and that's not just references to other elements of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tulcod (talk • contribs) 12:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

• Do not move, but copy. I second Tulcod's observation.

Pandelver (talk) 11:27, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Types

This seems to be in Spanish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Augurar (talk • contribs) 23:06, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Pseudo-article

I really don't think this article is in any way comprehensible to anyone. There are no definitions, no examples and no references. I don't know what it is doing here. Perhaps it should be tagged for deletion. But, if we are thinking of article rescue, editors, don't be put off by its mysterious language and difficult ideas. It is mysterious because it says nothing, difficult because incomprehensible. I'm not going to say, if you can't do better than this, don't bother. No indeed. I do not attack editors. Thank you for creating a place holder here, editor(s). WP encourages everyone inclined to do so to edit. In mathematics, the main place holder is zero. We don't have zero here, no indeed. What I would say is, pay no attention at all to the current words. Just go right ahead and rewrite the article. I doubt if anyone is going to defend it; there would have to be something there to defend! In fact, I disapprove of the organization, which seems trivial. We want to start - to start, I say, with the definition and make it clear what a stophe is. Then we might go on the the kinds and examples. No lists please. As far as putting it on Wiktionary is concerned, put what on Wiktionary? This is not a definition of a strophe and no one is in any way illuminated. Before we can get to B we have to go through A.Dave (talk) 22:34, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

• This article has good initial content. It needs filling out, intra-Wikipedia links and recasting of the list of types which lead to explanations of the techincal terms so far introduced, and a stated relationship between the Italianate Spanish terms used, original Greek, Turkish, and all other language and cultural cases in which strophes occur, including English terminology. The preceding sections are already decently linked.

Pandelver (talk) 11:37, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Types

Removing this list - which seems to be something about Spanish poetry and not generally applicable. Bacchiad (talk) 20:26, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Two verses

Pareado: aa / AA.

Alegría (Happiness):

Cosante:

Dístico elegiaco:

Three Verses

Terceto: 11A 11B 11A

Tercetillo:

Soleá: a-a

Four Verses

Cuarteto: 11A 11B 11B 11A

Redondilla: 8a 8b 8b 8a

Serventesio: 11A 11B 11A 11B

Cuarteta: 8a 8b 8a 8b

Copla: - a - a

Seguidilla: 7a 5b 7a 5b ó 7- 5a 7- 5a

Cuaderna vía: 14A 14A 14A 14A

Five Verses

Quintilla:

Double Quintilla

Quintilla endecasílaba

Quintilla of Fray Luis de León

Royal Quintilla

Quinteto:

Quinteto de arte mayor

Quinteto contracto

Quinteto agudo

Lira: 7a 11B 7a 7b 11B

Six Verses

Sexteto o sextina: Versos

Sextilla:

Copla de pie quebrado or copla manriqueña: 8a 8b 4c 8a 8b 4c

Seven Verses

Compound Seguidilla: 7- 5a 7- 5a 5b 7- 5b

Eight Verses

Royal Octava: ABABABCC

Copla de arte mayor: ABBAACCA

Octavilla: 4- 4a 4a 4b 4- 4c 4c 4b

Ten Verses

Décima o espinela: abbaaccddc

Seguidilla chamberga: 7- 5a 7- 5a 3b 7b 3c 7c 3d 7d

Hard to parse clause in "Contemporary usage"

In This appropriation of the ancient term is useful, as contemporary poetry is a frequent turns (the original meaning of Strophe), and it avoids relying upon the invention of new terminology such as 'word clumps'., I have trouble parsing and interpreting the clause in italics, contemporary poetry is a frequent turns. I can make it make sense by changing "is a" to "has", "uses", or "relies on", but I'm not sure which if any is the intended meaning. Does anyone know? The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 22:15, 20 January 2022 (UTC)