Talk:Steep, Hampshire

Requested move 13 February 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 23:15, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

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• Steep → Steep, Hampshire
• Steep (disambiguation) → Steep

– WP:ASTONISH. I don't think a village with 849 people is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for such a common term. None of my first 50 Google Search and Google Books results for "steep -wikipedia" are about this village, and only one of my first 50 DuckDuckGo search results are about this village. See also Talk:Wells, Somerset#Requested move for a similar move request concerning a city in England. sst✈^(conjugate) 16:55, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

• Retain I don't see any problem with the name or note any confusion with its adjective. There are dozens of Hampshire villages I can pick out with simple names like this one, such as Wield. JAGUAR  17:09, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
  • Wield (disambiguation) is a red link. There are few if any topics that can be confused with the place in Hampshire. "[place], Hampshire" is also consistent with many page titles listed on the List of places in Hampshire. sst✈^(conjugate) 02:23, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support looks like a potential mislink magnet, population of 900, no. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:04, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support per nom. I don't see how such a tiny place meets the primary topic criteria. Talk:Settle, North Yorkshire#Requested moves provides another example. Egsan Bacon (talk) 04:47, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support per nom. WP:USPLACE and not primary topic, since the verb "steep" is very common in cooking -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 05:39, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

  WP:USPLACE only applies to US places, as the name suggests. WaggersTALK 15:56, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

• It's times like these that I wish Americans would have their own version of Wikipedia. JAGUAR  19:35, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

• Support per nom; clear absence of a primary topic, given that only a very small proportion of uses of the word "steep" are references to the village. bd2412 T 22:53, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Steep, Hampshire/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 04:20, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi! I am interested to review this. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 04:20, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Lead

• Could England be linked? I have seen the country linked in many articles.

Done JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• According to the 2011 census of England?

• I've linked the United Kingdom Census 2011 JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• According to the 2011 census, it had a population of 849 This important fact has not been mentioned in the main text. I guess the citation could go there as well.

• Oops, forgot about that. I've added it in the geography and demographics section JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• a progressive public school I think "progressive" could be linked to Progressive education

• Done JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Prehistory to Roman

• The village name has been spelled in various ways Are all these names in English or in French as well? Foreign names are typically kept in italics.

• Added italics to the French names (I'm curious to know why it had French names in the first place) JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• La Stuppe, La Stiepe When were these used? Are they still used? Should be clear.

• 'La Stuppe, La Stiepe were both used in the 14 century, it is identified with the brackets after 'Stupe'. I hope that makes sense for the reader? JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• Can "ridge" be linked?

• Done JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• An ancestor of mine who migrated from Steep to Nottingham in the 1870s is recorded in the 1881 census as coming from Stup. I guess this represents his pronunciation at the time, as I doubt the census enumerator in Nottingham knew anything about Steep.Sjwells53 (talk) 19:21, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Medieval to Tudor

• The early 17th century was also described as a "great rebuilding" of the village described by whom?

• I assume William Page, the author who wrote the history of Steep JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• Can "depression" be linked?

Linked Depression (economics) JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

19th century to Second World War

• Can "conduit" be linked?

• Linked JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• and his children attended Bedales School and his wife also taught there Can we avoid repeating the "and...and" structure?

• Rephrased JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Geography and demographics

• Steep is located in the eastern southern part of Hampshire Could be clearer if we write "eastern part of southern Hampshire".

• Good catch, done JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• "Steep Marsh" is a duplink.

• I clicked the link and it directs to Steep Marsh just fine? Maybe it was an error on the toolserver's part JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• sandy loam, with the subsoil being gravel and sand I think we need more links here.

• Linked everything but sand, as I thought that would be overlinking JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• The prominent crops are wheat, barley, and oats I think we need not link "wheat" at least.

• Agreed, delinked! JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Notable landmarks

• Can chancel and nave be linked or explained?

• I've linked them, they seem to be important in church architecture JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• Ropley is a duplink

• Strange. Again, Ropley links fine? JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• The Harrow is an 18th-century Grade II listed public house and was first built in the 18th century Can we avoid repeating "18th century"?

• Cut JAGUAR  11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Possible paraphrasing

Earwig's copyvio detector showed some paraphrasing from the website [[1]]. You can see the results here. This should be repaired. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 05:48, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• I've done some copyediting. The British History Online is by far the best source, but its stylisation is so old that it's difficult to rephrase some of it. JAGUAR  11:50, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Sources: Ref. 6 seems a bit cloudy. I am not sure if Google Maps can be used as a source.

• You're right. I removed it; I don't think it's necessary to source how far the nearest town is etc. JAGUAR  11:50, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

That should be all. Good luck! Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 04:55, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the review Sainsf! I think I've got everything. I made this article as comprehensive as possible, but it's hard to do so with only a handful of sources. I was lucky enough to find what sources I could anyway, as information on these places are scarce. I wish I could have found better photos on the internet, the scenery is stunning. JAGUAR  11:50, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Awesome Jaguar! About duplinks, they are simply repeated links. No trouble with the links themselves, but we typically link terms once in the article. That done, I would be happy to pass this article. Indeed, I would love to see the scenery. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 11:58, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Oops, all done now. I've delinked the duplinks. Yeah, the scenery is stunning, it's called Steep for a reason! I was surprised that there weren't any images on it. JAGUAR  12:23, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Hehe, I wish I could take a dozen snaps of it! I am mad at scenery. Getting back to business, I believe the article is ready for GA status now. The copyvio issue has improved and is not serious. The prose is excellent and supported by a sufficient number of sources. I gladly promote this article. Congrats! Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 12:32, 23 March 2016 (UTC)