Talk:Singaporean Mahjong scoring rules/Archive 1

About àn-gàng (暗杠) and àn-yǎo (暗咬)

In our playing circles, collecting all four of anything (normal tiles, flower tiles, animal tiles) is àn-gàng (暗杠). àn-yǎo (暗咬) more refers to the matching of the two related animal or flower tiles that exist at the starting tiles (13 or 14) of every hand (before everyone has drawn any tiles). Hope it clarifies the concepts.

Kiwi8 16:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Kiwi8, this page on the Singapore scoring rules is a great resource. However, doesn't gàng-gàng-hú (杠杠胡) refer to a 18-tile hand with 4 kongs (some people also call this 18 Arhats, or shíbāluóhàn)? Since you have used huā-shàng-huā (花上花) for the event of winning after replacing a flower/animal tile, I believe the logical corresponding term for winning after replacing a kong is gàng-shàng-gàng (杠上杠). Phytomagus 19:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with u too... but I did not come up with the term 杠杠胡. Should be the other editor who made the change. Kiwi8 19:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

You can also call it 嶺上開花, but I have not heard of the term 杠杠胡 ever. Denihilonihil (talk) 18:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

References

Why is there a references tag for this article given that there isn't a definitive handbook or anything of the sort for mahjong? Particularly since this article just summarises the generally-accepted rules. Denihilonihil (talk) 18:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Readability

I am a european, and for some reason, my friends and I play using the Singaporean rules. The article you guys have written contains a lot of information and is really useful. However, we really have a hard time getting information out of the article, due to the way it is written. First of all, the use of chinese names and symbols is quite distracting. Just an example from the article:

A special situation exists where a player cannot claim a 平胡 hand even if he zì-mō (自摸) the last required tile.

All the information is there, the symbols 平胡 are explained to correspond to "sequence" and zì-mō to drawing the last tile oneself. Still, for someone who doesn't speak chinese, this is really hard to read. Maybe you could fix some english names, and if you really want to show the chinese names as well, you could put a glossary at the end of the article.

Another point is that some particular information, say the score for some combination, is hard to find. It would be really nice to have a table somewhere that summarizes the combinations and their points, as well as the side conditions (for example the sequence hand).

What do you guys think?

Kanigsson (talk) 11:46, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

It would require your help. Because you are the one requiring the glossary and others would not know what you don't know. Prepare the terms unfamiliar to you right here, and I can help you out with the glossary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:3003:2077:2AE6:7DB1:702F:7B7C:EA34 (talk) 00:18, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

About Nine Gates

I think that Nine Gates should not allow any open melds. Else there is nothing to distinguish it from Pure Suit.

Think about it. Thirteen Orphans is special because with no melds, it is possible to be in a 13-wait situation. If you allowed any open meld for Nine Gates, you just made 9-wait impossible. What remains is nothing much different from a regular Pure Suit.

But I think it's a small issue. The difference between the 4-tai of Pure Suit and the 5-limit of a proper Nine Gates is just 1-tai. In games where the limit is higher than 5, this matters a lot.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.75.22.66 (talk) 03:22, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Faces tiles, General Joker tiles?

I'd like to ask if Singaporean Mahjong use "Faces tiles" (it can be "×2 ＋ ×2"，or just "×4" sometimes) & "General Joker tiles" ("×4") or not. Because the table on the page Mahjong_tiles#Comparison tells me so, but refer to this page, there's no data of "Faces tiles" & "General Joker tiles".--Cangjie6 (talk) 17:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Replying to the above: These tiles are all used as "fei", which acts like a joker tile that can be represented as any other tiles. Some players play up to 16 "fei" which have to use these "fei" and "face" tiles from two mahjong sets. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.60.124.180 (talk) 05:03, 6 January 2021 (UTC)