Talk:Shikamaru Nara

Question

Why is "Shikamaru" in Katakana and not in Kanji(鹿丸)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.17.122.239 (talk) .

Well I could be noted in the trivia section....The Gerg 05:51, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Ino, Shika, Cho

In the trivia section someone said that 'Ino' means Boar. As far as im aware it means dog. I do not speak Japanese fluently and so i could be reading the name in the wrong context or something but i'm pretty sure the word 'Ino' means dog. I have seen it many times and have also seen the japanese for boar, which i currently cant remember but it is not 'Ino'. Feel free to correct me if im wrong. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.130.244.130 (talk) .

The Japanese word for dog is "inu". Ino means wild boar. Hence the insult to call Ino, "pig".--Dasherman 02:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah, ok, sorry, my bad. But isnt "pig" an insult anyway *rolls eyes* —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.130.249.58 (talk) .

We are talking about a different culture here. Also, "buta" would mean pig, "ino" is specifically means boar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.17.122.239 (talk) .

Shikamaru and the Knight

I think the paragraph about what a knight means in reference to Shikamaru should be changed. Other translations explain what Asuma meant in much more detail. What’s up there now is a little lacking. This gives a more accurate translation. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/Spooky21/316_13.gif --Dasherman 20:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Tayuya, a man?

Where is it stated that Tayuya of the Sound Four (or Five) is actually a man? --Beef noodles 22:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

It's not. She's a woman. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 22:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

That's what I thought. Someone had previously typed it in the trivia section of this page. --Beef noodles 18:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

What idiot thinks Tayuya is a man? (Sorry about my language)

Requested move

Nara Shikamaru → Shikamaru Nara – As pointed out in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga#Naruto_character_article_titles, the current names for articles about Naruto characters are inconsistent with the names used for other anime characters (Naruto characters use Japanese order for names, while most other anime characters have their name in Western order), as well not following the naming guidelines in WP:MOS-JA.

DO NOT COMMENT HERE. Please participate in the centralized discussion at Talk:Uzumaki Naturo

--Kunzite 01:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

No Current Team?

Wasn't it a little hasty to remove Ino, Shika, and Chouji's team affiliation? Asuma still referred to them as a team up until chapter 317 and they were clearly going on missions with each other post time-skip. Considering their father's close ties, it's highly unlikely they will go their separate ways and will probably form a second generation of ino-shika-chou. And almost everyone still identifies them as a team. Why should they be any different than other chuunin teams like Team 7, 8, or Team Gai? I believe their current team should be added back, obviously minus Asuma, until we have some definitive word that they won’t be working together. Dasherman 21:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

The only problem is: without Asuma as their jonin-sensai, there really isn't a team 10. If Kishimoto adds a new sensai they might be team 10 again. If not, then the the chances are they're just a team. Let's not forget also, that Ino and Choji have their own Niju Shotai team, if that's what they are. Team 7,8 and Gai all have their jonin still, even though Neji himself is Jonin.

Well than its a three man cell, isn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.3.83 (talk) 16:35, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Shikamaru's favorite phrase

It seems like the last five modifications of this page concerned the same bit of article: Shikamaru's phrase. Some people kept changing it to "Live each day quietly", while I never saw him say such a thing in the anime or manga. Does it come from the databook? Or am I right to think it is still "How troublesome"? ImPhil 22:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Databooks. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

"live each day quietly" may be referring to Shikamaru's policy in his life. "How troublesome" still seems like the better choice to me... Shika8 (talk) 22:36, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism?

Everything in the "Curent Arc" section has been deleted. I suspect vandalism. MoChan 18:02, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Somebody just wrote that Shikamaru is the Rokudaime Hokage - I removed it as obvious vandalism. DarthDylanBlue 08:42, 24 January 2007 (UTC)DarthDylanBlue

Why is Shikamaru's rank "Idiot"? I realize i'm not up to date on the manga but there isn't a description for such a rank in the Ninja Rankings page either. Krickly 20:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

yeah i just removed a vandilism saying he was hot Gamemaster1026

There was vandalism on his page about this-- "He seems to have intimate relations with Ino Yamanaka, Temari, Kin Tsuchi, and Tayuya."-- Which, in itself, sounds completely sexist, incorrect to the series, and disgusting.

Pimp much? But there should be more InoShika or Shikamari speculation.

No speculation. And while I appreciate al everyone has done to help this page, we really don't need all these vandalism reports. Just remove the vandalism, state what you're doing in your edit summary, and you're good. // DecaimientoPoético 14:38, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

As a crazed fanboy (foaming at the mouth, if you will) I thing Naruto pairings should have a page to themsleves. There, the pros and cons shall be debated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.102.97 (talk) 04:08, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

this should be trivia

In chapter 96, Shikamaru explains that any damage done to someone trapped in his shadow possession hurts him too. How come this didn't happen at any other time, like when he gave Kin a concussion, or blew up Hidan? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.136.170.126 (talk) 01:16, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

It only mimics movement. Chalk that up to a simple continuity error. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 01:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Does it actually say that it hurts him? Or just that it forces him to move like they do if something acts on them? So, when Naruto puched Gaara, it snapped Shikamaru's head to one side. That would make more sense. Retlor 12:16, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

There has been enough evidence to show that it only effects movement. A recent example. When Izumo and Kotetsu stabbed Hidan on both sides with their giant kunai, Shika still had on the kage mane. Dasherman 22:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Can someone confirm or deny for me whether or not Kage Mane was still active when Asuma decapitated Hidan? If it's confirmed, it should be the last nail to the coffin for this debate =/ -- Seraphchoir 12:51, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Hidan was bound with Shadow Sewing at the time, which has no impact on Shikamaru's movements. ~SnapperTo 19:34, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, in the Chuunin exam arc, when Shikamaru traps Gaara in Shadow Imitation, Naruto hits Gaara, and Shikamaru says,"Any injury done to the opponent while in shadow imitation will also be felt by the user."(From Naruto Volume 11. Reread the manga.Shindo9Hikaru 01:14, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

if SHika has someone caught in his Kagemane and the person is stabbed, he'll feel the pain of being stabbed, but won't die, he'll just feel it.

Not so, when Gaara got punched by Naruto in the Exam, Shikamaru's head jerked back with Gaaras. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.198.111.151 (talk) 01:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, he felt the pain of it, but...how about this. If Naruto had punched him hard enough to give him a black eye, shikamaru would feel pain, but not have a black eye. Either that, or they just said that at the hospital for comic relief without even really thinking about it. I'm leaning more towards the latter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.69.48 (talk) 21:57, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Shikamaru's Picture

I really think that we should change is picture. It looks weird and it makes his nose disapear. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nicoler1 (talk • contribs) 21:52, 10 May 2007 (UTC).

I agree. Plus, I believe the picture was from one of the filler episodes. Dunnlo 02:24, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Troublesome Women

On Shikamaru's background, it keeps saying that Shikamaru finds his mother, Ino, and Temari to be the most troublesome women he knows. But one part of that isn't true. There is no evidence of Shikamaru claiming Ino to be the most troublesome anything. Chapter 172 proved that Shikamaru imagines both Ino and Sakura on the same level of bossy and annoying, but not the most troublesome/scary of all.

Ino definitely should be mentioned. There have been many times where Ino has annoyed Shikamaru, particularly with her former interest in Sasuke and bossy attitude. She is his teammate and he spends more time with her than any other female in the series. Ino and his mother have probably had the most to do with shaping Shikamaru's somewhat negative view on women. If anything, Temari challenges his view of women for the better. Dunnlo 17:52, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

It's funny, but I happen to agree with a lot of your response. One thing however, "[Ino] is his teammate and he spends more time with her than any other female in the series" That really can't be proven, if he spent /that/ much time with Ino, then it would have been mentioned. If anything, Shikamaru spends more time with his own mother than with other troublesome girls...if not avoiding them all together.

I generally meant when we see the character. I am sure all the characters spend their time mostly with their families. But Ino is the girl he is most seen around on panel in the manga and on screen in the case of the anime. Due to the fact they are on the same team. His mother Yoshino only appeared in a few panels. Dunnlo 06:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

But although Ino is very bossy, she and Shikamaru clearly care about each other, as friends of course. So shouldn't she count as a somewhat positive impact on bossy women too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.81.38.116 (talk) 02:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Shika and Temari are dating according to Tsunade?

Episode 8 of Shippuden. Tsunade mentions something about Shikamaru and Temari dating. I know it's the anime but I was suprised. I guess they are the first canon couple.

That episode actually pointed out that they were not dating, mainly because Naruto jumped to the "wrong" conclusion when he first saw them together. I personally think the first canon couple is AsuKure.

Naruto Movie 2

There doesn't seem to be any mention of Naruto Movie 2 on his page. He filled in for Sasuke on Team 7 and played a big part. So there should be some mention of it in Other Media.

Shikamaru's appearances with Temari?

"Shikamaru has had a number of his appearances coincide with those of Temari" I think this is unnecessary and wrong. Shikamaru has had most of his appearances coincide with the other Team 10 members, especially Choiji and maybe Ino. Shikamarus has also had a lot of appearances coincide with Naruto. So either we remove the Temari bit, or add these 'cause I don't see point of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.197.4.121 (talk)

While Shikamaru frequently appears without Temari, the opposite is not true; Temari rarely makes appearances without Shikamaru appearing with her at some point in time. That's what the point of the section is. ~SnapperTo 18:41, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, Okay. I didn't get that. Now it makes sense. Though it would make more sense to just have this on Temari's page. Because that's a bit confusing.

It's on her page too. It seemed that, since it applied to both, is could use a mention in both articles. ~SnapperTo 19:06, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Just to mention something, Shikamaru thinks Ino's troublesome too. He often says the quote "Troublesome" whenever Ino's around. But, no, now it says "Temari ranks as one of the women he finds most troublesome, possibly more so than his own mother" Ino SHOULD be mentioned here. Because, he finds her troublesome, you have to agree on that. I bet that he thinks Ino is as troublesome as his mother, at least. NazaliaSan 18:03, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I think someone just wanted to put the Shikatema in there. his page could be vandalised by heaps of ShikaIno fans and write how her and Shikamaru's relationship is going to happen and how much Temari should stay with guys her own age. superflat

Ironically, Shikamaru's page was vandalised by ShikaIno fans such as you Superflat. I reverted all your edits that had been vandalism. You obviously haven't noticed the messages that I left you. Omghgomg 01:40, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I think that the Temari part should be excluded from his biography! It really has nothing to do with his history or anything, and it obviously trying to ship ShikaTema. Shikamaru interacts with plenty of other characters, and yet Temari gets a special mention? That makes no sense. Shikamaru and Temari really only interact about five times in the series. And could someone please explain 'Temari ranks as one of the women he finds most troublesome, possibly more so than his own mother'? That is obviously not a fact stated in the Naruto series. Dearrr 19:58, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

First, the only suggestion of a relationship within this article is the one made by Naruto. You can go complain to Kishimoto about that if you disagree. Second, had you actually read the discussion you'd see why Temari gets "special mention". Finally, although he doesn't use the word "troublesome", he does say Temari is scarier than his own mother. Would your baseless insinuations be satisfied if the word were changed? ~SnapperTo 20:14, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

it still seems like this article is encouraging the shikatema thing. shikamaru has not had that many appearences with temari and honestly, naruto's comment isn't all that important. more important information has been removed before but why does that stay? sounds all too suspicious to me.besides, if temari has some honorable mention on being "scarier than his mother"ino should be in there for all those times shika gets annoyed by her. i'm not looking for an argument i'm just stating my opinion and demanding fairness. (XDsyroswazhereXD (talk) 18:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC))

It's funny to read your added-in comments to the discussion page, XDsyro, because it's already evident that you are against anything related with Temari on Shikamaru's page. Would it satisfy you if we added a lyrical poem declaring how much Ino deserves to be mentioned just because you said so? Temari's appearances are not a 'shikatem thing' unless you want to think that way, and it's not an 'honorable mention', it's the truth; I doubt you'd be complaining if there were no female characters (but maybe you'd prefer Ino) being used in the same circumstance with Shikamaru. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 21:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

It really doesn't matter. Temari and Shikamaru are ,from what we know, friends, and Ino and Shikamaru ,from what we know, are also friends. If any pairing is occuring, Kishimoto will surely give you signs, and he has, but I am not gonna go into that. Though I believe Shikamaru's appearances with Temari symbolizes the bond that Konoha has formed with Suna since Gaara became Kazekage, It may also be clue as into Shikamaru and Temari being just or beyond friends. Shikamaru's life is filled with troublesome women, though his bases are probably his mother, Ino, and I am also thinking Temari. She is there for a reason, and Ino/Shika fans, such as myself, try and deny it. But I realized long ago that the writer is gonna do what he wants to do, and no matter how much we deny it, Temari is an adamant part of Shika's life. She IS there for a reason, and it has yet to unfold. Written by: *Kepy*

"Even the toughest woman will show a softer side to the man she loves."

His dad said this to him in the last english dub episode. He also said something about men being no good without women. What is this suppose to mean? What does it have to do with Shikamaru's character?

The history of the men in the Nara clan (the two that were shown, anyways. Does that count?) have a history of being whipped by women. Shikatou is dominated by his bossy wife, while Shikamaru's main two ships (Temari and Ino) are equally annoying. Without the "Even the toughest..." quote, it would seem as through Shikatou is forced to marry and does not love his wife. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.102.97 (talk) 04:06, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Still seems completely irrelevant to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.28.221 (talk) 15:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Test

To help better improve the quality of the Naruto articles, let us add a section about out-of universe information, like we did with Naruto's article. So, as such, I would like to start with Shikamaru, mainly because he seemed like an easy one to start with. So, do I have permission to change his article into this? User:Artist Formerly Known As Whocares, 2:18 (Eastern Standard Time), 3 August 2007 (UTC)

His IQ?

I know it states that it's "over 200." But is there an actual number in the databook? Like 212, 230, or something specific? Or could it be some ridiculous made up number like Ami Mizuno from Sailor Moon. I believe they said her's was 300 which is not even possible. Copy Ninja1 18:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

It is absolutely possible, it's just not probable. It's never happened, as far as I know, in recorded history, but that doesn't mean Ami and Shikamaru couldn't be ridiculously intelligent enough to qualify. 214.13.209.200 16:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Jounin?

I thought that he was Jounin? --RockyMM 16:48, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Nope, Shikamaru was awarded Chuunin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.89.14.68 (talk) 19:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Shikamaru's the series oldest Chuunin from the Konoha 9. The funny thing is, that Temari mentions that Shikamaru could have been a Jounin if he actually got up and worked. --Dubtiger 14:33, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

When does Temari say that?69.118.144.236 17:52, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Episode #7 of Shippuden when Shikamaru escorts Temari out of Konoha. 67.82.52.157 22:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Merge

Given the current trend of supporting characters being merged into the Konoha team article, I will be merging this article with the List of major Konoha teams article. Can anyone think of a super important reason why he shouldn't be merged like the rest? Gailim 06:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE FROM THE SAME CATEGORY IT MEANS THEY ARE THE SAME The reason why the other atricles were merged is, for example hinata hasnt done too much in the manga, she only fights neji, a brief appareance and... Shikamaru, Lee and Neji do more things in the story, they always have more plot than others like Ino, and if we merge this article the list of konoha teams article will be a hell. Tintor2 13:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I'm only going to post this once, hopefully the message spreads throughout. Neji, Lee, and Shikamaru all have done much MUCH more than the other characters on the Konoha 11 page. Just look at the info on those pages, and on the Konoha 11 page, if given articles, they would be stubs, they WERE stubs. I really don't see this debate holding much water.--TheUltimate3 20:51, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

He, Neji, and Lee should keep their articles because they have been of greater importance to the series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.4.137.246 (talk) 23:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Shikamaru has had enough of a role in the series to warrant his own article and it should stay. Geez, you people aren't going to be satisfied until Naruto is reduced to a single paragraph, no picture, merged into the DBZ article, are you? 214.13.209.200 16:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

User:U is for Unity As it has been said by one of the admins in response of my try to give Ino an separate article- "importance of character means nothing, you must have an link to reliable and full source" (and, by the way - my account is free - you may take it if you want User:U is for Unity) 89.20.104.245 (talk) 18:49, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Shikamaru has all those things and for that he has an aricle. Apart from that I would like to give Itachi an article but I cant because he has the same problem as Ino. Tintor2 19:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Last part in reception...

Why do we have IGN telling us who this character is, when they truly have no canonical right to judge for themselves, at least not to the extent that it deserves a mention. anyone else agree that line needs to go?74.250.10.15 (talk) 07:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

It is a reliable secondary source that presents an out-of-universe perspective on the character. Examples of reliable secondary sources show the character is notable and deserves to keep their article. For instance, the Neji and Rock Lee articles were merged because they were filled with in-universe information. Sid122 talk 08:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Godfather?

During the timeskip arc in the story (Naruto Shippuden), Asuma dies. His and Kurenai's child is still waiting to be born, and I believe that Shikamaru vows some kind of responsibility over the child. Does this mean that he's a godfather? Shika8 (talk) 22:08, 6 February 2008 (UTC) I suppose in a way, he is--Gamer X 31 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gamer X 31 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

No; they're not Christian, nor have any relation to "Western" ideas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurtle (talk • contribs) 00:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Jiraiya was stated to be Naruto's godfather, so you cant say that there's no such thing in the Naruto universe. However, Shikamaru was never stated to be the baby's godfather, so it's still no. 65.175.212.219 (talk) 02:11, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Shikamaru - Rock Lee - Neji

Why should Shikamaru have his own article and Rock Lee and Neji don't?

I wasn't involved in the decision to merge Neji and Lee into the Major characters article, but Shikamaru's page seems to be perfectly solid. It contains information on his reception (although more info would certainly help there), references outside of the series, a good overview of the character and his role, and comments from Kishimoto himself. About the only thing the article is noticeably lacking is information on the design of him, and I'm unsure if Kishimoto has ever provided such information. If it does exist somewhere, it should be added in. Deleting a character's page because another character doesn't have a page is not a good move, and it violates Wikipedia policy.Kuwabaratheman (talk) 10:05, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I think that in the Uzumaki Artbook there is information about the design or personality. If anybody has that book would be perfect (in my country they dont sell it...).Tintor2 (talk) 11:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I think shikamaru should be merged......,Grimmjow E6 (talk) 01:07, 17 July 2008 (UTC),

Because?--Tintor2 (talk) 02:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Shiho

Shiho is the girl from the code squad that appears to be in love with Shikamaru.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Shiho

She's appeared in a few chapters now and even got a cover. Should there at least be a mention of her? She would fit in the personality section which talks about how Shikamaru interacts with women. Loooni (talk) 04:59, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Smoking

Okay, please, please forgive me if I get this wrong, but doesn't Shikamaru start smoking after Asuma dies? I don't know if he eventually ends up quitting (I'm only on chapter 333, page 12) but I think it deserves a mention. Noodle2D23 (talk) 17:22, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

In the manga, he does begin smoking. However, it appears that in the anime-adaption, he doesn't. At the very least, this difference should have a mention65.12.159.223 (talk) 04:46, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Shikamaru Nara/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

The article is quite well-written and enjoyable to read. I did a bit of copyediting, and three things came up during the review.

1. The lead section is supposed to be a summary of the article. Currently, it contains information that is used word-for-word later in the article. The phrasing should be different, and the quotations should be left for the body of the article instead of being used in the lead.
2. "if he was a girl, he would marry Shikamaru because he believes he would be successful in life" - too many "he"s, and it's not clear which refers to which character.
3. The "Plot overview" section seems a little brief. I am unfamiliar with the character, however, so I will assume good faith if you believe that this is sufficient.

I will place this nomination on hold to allow for these concerns to be addressed and/or discussed. Any questions and/or comments can be left here, as this page is on my watchlist. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

The plot overview has that length to avoid overdetailed information be added as well as only to have his most important parts. I tried to do some fixes per your review but I am still studying English, so my grammar is not very good.Tintor2 (talk) 00:20, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

You know, it's a courtesy to inform the nominator that his article has been reviewed :p I'm addressing your concerns now. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 02:16, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Fixed the lead and that particular sentence. The plot overview is short, but covers the major points, and for a series like this, adding more onto it means "Shikamaru fought character X and beat X with Y technique. Shikamaru then fought..." and you get the point. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 02:22, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

In the lead, would it be possible to rewrite the "Kishimoto has noted that he likes Shikamaru due to his easygoing nature despite his genius, and contrasted him against Sasuke Uchiha's intelligent but abrasive personality" sentence, as it is almost identical to "Masashi Kishimoto has noted that he likes Shikamaru due to his easygoing nature despite being a genius, and contrasted him against Sasuke Uchiha's intelligent but abrasive personality", which comes near the beginning of the next section. In addition, are there any external links that readers would find helpful? GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. And there's no external links of note that are relevant to the character that would help in my opinion. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 17:20, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks for the quick replies. I am promoting the article. If you have a chance, it would be great if you could review an article in return to help cut down on the backlog at WP:GAN. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 17:23, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Star Trek Reference

Is his pose where he concentrates to come up with a plan (eg: in the first chunin fights) a reference to Mr Spock from Star Trek TOS which was made much earlier? It's almost identical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.96.124.11 (talk) 21:50, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

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