Talk:She's a Woman/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Zmbro (talk · contribs) 17:55, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

I got this. – zmbro _(talk) 17:55, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lead

• Man the States didn't make it easy for us WP editors. Although only the original release should appear in the infobox per Template:Infobox_song#Parameters, since it appeared as a single on both sides of the Atlantic, perhaps we should keep both here to make things easy (especially because it would be the US info only in that case). What do you think?

  Yeah, I think is necessary to have them both here. Even if you consider the UK date the official release, the US single coming out earlier makes it important to mention.

• Lead looks solid

  :)

Background and composition

• "Paul McCartney composed the lyrics and melody to "She's a Woman" quickly,[1] beginning it on the same day that it was recorded, 8 October 1964.[2]" I would reword this to something like "Paul McCartney began composing the lyrics and melody to "She's a Woman" on 8 October 1964, the same day that it was recorded, and finished it quickly.[1][2]" In my opinion that has more flow than the way it's currently written.

  Yeah, that's much better. Changed.

• Add alt text to the image (also I would have the caption just say EMI and not Abbey Road since it's referred to as EMI everywhere else)

  Added alt tag and changed caption.

• "In a 1980 interview" was this his interview with Playboy? If so add that

  That's the one. Added.

• stylized → stylised (Brit English)

  Dang it, I though I had them all this time!

Recording

• Reword part of this section to have it read less like a story and more past tense (i.e. "The song's first take is in a" → "The song's first take was in a" and "the band moves into an" → "the band moved into an")

  Fixed.

• Comment: I don't know about you, but I wanna hear that 5th take badly now

  Well, you're in luck! Winn says take 5 (7?) began circulating in 1988. Reminds me a bit of Revolution 1 Take 20 and some of the Helter Skelter outtakes.

Release and reception

• Hate to do it but I'd put the US release before the UK one just so it's in chronological order

  Flipped it around. I also altered the phrasing slightly, so it reads: Capitol released "She's a Woman" in the US as the B-side to "I Feel Fine" on 23 November 1964. EMI's Parlophone label released the same single in the UK four days later.

• "the Beatles ability" → "the Beatles' ability"

  Fixed.

Other versions

• "The Beatles (Invite You to Take a Ticket to Ride " missing end parentheses?

  Fixed.

• realize → realise

  Not another! Fixed.

Personnel

• Don't have to link double tracked twice

  Fixed.

Charts

• Add 1964–65 weekly chart performance and 1965 year-end chart performance to the respective tables

  Added.

Notes and references

• Add access date to Smith 72

  Added.

• Add access date to Billboard Hot 100 ref

  Added.

• Ref 28: p → pp

  Fixed.

Final thoughts

• Overall very well done. Should be a GA in no time. I agree with all the biographers. I like this song, but the lyrics I always found a little weak. – zmbro _(talk) 19:40, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

  Thanks for the quick review! The part that that I agreed wholeheartedly with is Rodriguez's statement on how great the Hollywood Bowl sequencing is, with the abbreviated version of "Twist and Shout" leading into "She's a Woman". That one blew me away the first time I heard it. Tkbrett (✉) 00:01, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

• Agreed. I haven't heard that version in so long, I might go have a quick listen. I just listened to that 5th take and man Paul had range. Kind of reminded me of the outro to the Stones' "Sympathy for the Devil" (and obviously the ones you mentioned). Anyways, easy ✓ Pass :-)– zmbro _(talk) 14:37, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

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