Talk:Shaghur, Israel

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Content in History section[edit]

In the History section of this page at present, the following two sentences were substantively copied from the Deir al-Asad page:

  • Palestinian national poet Mahmoud Darwish was educated in the village. [also on the page for Mahmoud Darwish]
  • The village provided sanctuary to Uri Davis for a year while he was evading army service. [not noted on the page for Uri Davis]

No dates are given for either of the above, but very likely predate the 2003 formation of Shagor. While Deir al-Asad is one of the component villages comprising what is today Shagor, this content relates perhaps as "Notable Residents" (though apparently of brief stay only) and not to Shagor's history as a community. Edited accordingly. -- Deborahjay 22:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merged Majd al-Krum, Bi'ina and Deir al-Asad[edit]

I have merged the individual city components into the city article seeing as they were all minor stubs and could help fulfill this article. As far as I can see, I made all of the necessary adjustments in the mergers including neutralizing any POV that was in the original articles. All component articles have been redirected to the Shaghur page. --Al Ameer son (talk) 01:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since they have remained separate since December 2008 and elections were held in 2009 for each of the constituent villages, it is necessary to recreate the three articles in English. 79.182.190.93 (talk) 06:56, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I heard that they split not too long ago, but I cannot find any sources on the matter. We can't change the facts in the article based on hearsay. If you have a source could you please provide it? Thank you. --Al Ameer son (talk) 20:32, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Found the evidence: Read footnote #3 at the bottom of page 4. These are the latest population figures from the ICBS. --Al Ameer son (talk) 18:08, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Refugee population in Shatila[edit]

I added the info based on this BBC source[1] (Look for Abu Nisa) and this source speaks of an Umm Abid al-Qiblawi living in Shatila[2]. Are family also has friends (the Mattars) who are from Majd al-Krum but now live in Shatila - of course this is OR. Would either of the above sources suffice for the statement minus the "several" part. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:14, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC source seems to be down at the moment, so I can't say anything about it. Anything from PalestineRemembered.com is automatically null and void for anything slightly disputed, although PR.com often takes its info from external sources, so you might want to look for/at those. If you find such a source, then I guess it's proper to include the information in the article, without any numerical estimate ('at least one family/person' doesn't equal 'several', 'few', 'many', 'most', etc.) -- Ynhockey (Talk) 16:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I just read the BBC source, and Nisa doesn't seem to imply that either he or other Palestinians visit Majd al-Krum (even if there are some holy places there, not sure about that). Moreover, the narrative and Nisa's and not the BBC's. I think the text should be changed accordingly. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 20:55, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Shaghur, Israel/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

*Meets the qualifications.
  • Comprehensive; Satisfactory demographics, economy, education and component sections. Brief but existent history section from 1948 War on. Touches on sports, notable associates and politics.
  • Well-cited;All controversial text is backed by published and reputable sources. Statistics are generally backed and more citations on stats coming.
  • NPOV;Article itself does really attract any POV except during hangings in 1948 War which is already 'neutralized'.
  • Not a reqirement but there is also a substantial amount of free images to better illustrate article. --Al Ameer son 08:07, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 08:07, 1 December 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 05:52, 30 April 2016 (UTC)