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Help request[edit]

((help me)) I would be happy to have any critiques or suggestions about this entry. Carrol Grady (talk) 23:40, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do I put the Contents part of my article in a box? Carrol Grady (talk) 00:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some help[edit]

Hi Carrol. Here are a couple of things that will help you:

First, regarding the table of contents - sections are created with section headers. You make a header by putting the header title inside sets of equal signs - like the header of this section, which I made with == Some help ==. The more equal signs you use (and always use the same number on each side), the smaller the header is - so == == is essentially "top level", === === is second level, and so forth (it's not recommended you go past third or maybe fourth level on articles). One an article has 3 sections, a table of contents is automatically generated. You can also force a table of contents with the magic word __TOC__. Sections also get their own edit links, which is helpful when you're editing a large page.

Secondly, your helpme above isn't actually written correctly, so it won't draw any attention. It may be difficult to see due to your screen and font, but it's actually {{nowiki}} with a pair of braces, not round brackets. You don't need to worry about it this time (since I am answering your question after you posted it on the New contributors' help desk), but it's a handy thing to remember next time you need some help.

Third, there are at least two things wrong (or at least "not quite right") about referring to "my article". The first is that technically no articles on Wikipedia are owned, as they are editable by anyone, so such language is generally discouraged. The second problem is that when you're asking for help, "my article" is very vague and requires people to look through your contributions to take a guess as to what article you mean. It's better to link to the article you mean - just put the title of the article between two pairs of square brackets, like this: User:Carrol Grady.

Finally, your article is, at the moment, on your user page, so is not in normal "article space". Once your account is four days old, you will find that a "move" tab appears up the top of pages, and you can use this to move the article to its proper space - or you can copy the text into a new article. However, although I haven't even really skimmed the article, there are a few links that you may want to take a quick read of to make sure that it will last more than the obligatory five seconds, which include WP:NPOV, WP:COI, WP:MOS and WP:N. I'm also going to include a standard welcome template below this, which contains a lot of helpful links too.

I hope this helps and doesn't confuse you further. If you want more help, here are some places to go:

Wikipedia:New contributors' help page - where you posted your last question
Wikipedia:Help desk - performs much the same function
Place a helpme tag on this page
Leave me a note on my talk page - just click the "+" tab up the top

Cheers, Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello, Seventh-day Adventist Kinship International, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome!

Your query on the New users' help page[edit]

Mmm, I've had a look at your website, and in my opinion the group seems likely to satisfy WP:Notability so your article, properly sourced and referenced, will probably avoid nomination for deletion (though that is only my view!) However, do bear in mind that whatever you write can and will be edited by any other Wikipedia user who feels like it, from the minute it appears. It would be honest to mention the denomination's negative view in your original draft if this is a fact, but if you don't, doubtless someone else will! Just ensure that your statements are verifiable and correctly cited from reliable sources. I'm afraid no article on Wikipedia withstands criticism, and none keeps its original form.

You may want to look hard at WP:COI - there are good reasons why people who are close to a particular subject may not be the best ones to create an article about it. In particular, please do read this carefully. When you create an article about something and post it in mainspace here, especially if it is controversial, you may find that it has unintended consequences for its subject. Good luck with it. Ka renjc 19:28, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting of headlines[edit]

I have replied at Wikipedia:New contributors' help page#Contents Box, and formatted your headlines and deleted extra blank lines in [1]. I made no other changes. Just revert me if you prefer to do it yourself. See Wikipedia:Footnotes for how to make references. Numbers and links are automatically added when it's done like that. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:40, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The name of an article is not a section heading. I moved all your section headings up one level for this reason. The article name is chosen by editing a page with that name, for example Seventh-day Adventist Kinship International. Then the software automatically displays the name in big bold letters at top of the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:44, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment[edit]

I recently came across this article, and there is much solid content and good use of resources. I look forward to making a few further improvements soon. Cheers for creating it, Colin MacLaurin (talk) 05:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just made extensive wikifying improvements, but my internet connection is blocking me from submitting the changes :-). Ugh! Colin MacLaurin (talk) 06:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK they are submitted successfully now. I suggest some reorganizing for the article, to create less sections. How about merging much material into the "History" section? Possibly the same for a "Kampmeeting" section. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 06:52, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help. I will work on reorganization soon. 71.112.142.249 (talk) 22:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regional services[edit]

This section seems to be out of date. There are seven main regions outside the USA and no mention of The Philippines. Bjmullan (talk) 19:45, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tagged sections[edit]

This article includes a "how-to" section on how to join the organization, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. In addition, the section on Zoom meetings includes multiple uses of the first-person pronoun "we." Articles must be written in prose. Froyo49 (talk) 23:38, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]