Talk:Serer prehistory

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"remnants of earlier populations"[edit]

"These are the traces left by the proto-populations with which the Serer people have been in contact with "when they (the Serers) were the (Irenus) of Futa" (previously Tekrur)." This makes no sense, as Irenaeus was a Bishop and there doesn't seem to be such a word as Irenus. However, when you look at the actual article[1] (and not the Google translation which says Irenus and may be the source of this nonsense) you can see clearly that the word is venus (not the goddess). You then get something much more sensible, " These are the traces left by the proto-populations with which the Sereer were in contact when they came from the Fuuta. According to countries sereer, these remains are different:"

This makes sense, see [2] which says "Serer Communities before Conquest by the Gelwaar The oral historical record, written accounts by early Arab and European explorers, and physical anthropological evidence suggest that the various Serer peoples migrated south from the Fuuta Tooro region (Senegal River valley) beginning around the eleventh century, when Islam first came across the Sahara.41 Although our knowledge of the pre-Islamic Fuuta..." Dougweller (talk) 14:23, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The French article, mainly written by another editor, has this correct. Dougweller (talk) 14:29, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And the source doesn't say "previously Tekrur" either. Dougweller (talk) 14:38, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To enlarge on the above:

He wrote:

"I. les vestiges de populations anterieures.

Il s’agit des traces laissées par les proto-peuplements avec lesquels les Sereer ont été en contact lorsqu’ils sont venus du Fuuta. Selon les divers pays sereer, ces restes sont différents :

- les mégalithes de latérite taillée, plantés en structures circulaires, avec des pierres frontales implantées en direction de l’est, ne se rencontrent que dans une petite partie de l’ancien royaume du Saalum. "

Google translates this as

"I. vestiges of anterior populations.

These are the traces of the proto-populations with which Sereer were when they came in contact Fuuta. According to different countries Sereer, these remains are different:

- Megaliths carved laterite planted in circular structures with stone front located towards the east, are found only in a small part of the ancient kingdom of Saalum."

Bing translates it as:

"I. the vestiges of past populations.

It's the traces left by the proto-peuplements with which the Sereer were in contact when they came from the Fuuta. According to countries sereer, these remains are different:

-chipped laterite megaliths, planted in circular structures with frontal stones implanted in the direction of the East, occur only in a small part of the former Kingdom of the Saalum."

Past populations is the key phrase here. Dougweller (talk) 14:16, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]