Talk:Secotioid

Suggestions

This article needs a bit of work, in my opinion.

a: there is not an agreement on all forms called "secotioid" needing to have lost ballistospores.

b: I will dig around for the citation, but I do not believe the statement of, losing spores, or irregular, misaligned gills is 100% correct. I believe there is at least one species that maintains normal gills and ballistospores but never loses the partial veil, rendering it a mute point.

c: Also, I would hardly call 1969 "recent" which is when Studies in the Genus Gastroboletus was published (Trappe and Trappe I think, in Britonia) and placed Gastroboletus as a bolete.

d: The cause and advantage of secotioid forms seems to be unknown; while it may be of benefit in warm, dry climates, some species are secotioid and found near water <see Hibbett 1994>

e: Where is the citation for this statement, "Like gasteroid fungi, secotioid ones rely on animals such as rodents or insects to distribute their spores."? I am not sure it is true for 100% of the species. Maybe it should be reworded to [...]secotioid ones are thought to rely[...].

f: Again, in the sentence immediately precending the sentence mentioned in suggestion "e" a universal statement is made about the loss of ballistospores. This is not a unverisal requirement to all mycologists.

g: Statement "Gastroboletus is a secotioid bolete genus where the fruiting bodies may or may not open, but in any case the tubes are not aligned vertically as in a true bolete." is not correct. In Studies in the Genus Gastroboletus the secotioid boletes are described as, frequently, not always, misaligned.

I will find as many citations and sources as I can and put together a list.M.E.Nuhn (talk) 03:30, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello. A citation for the irregular misaligned gills is at the top of page 2 of Thiers' "The Secotioid Syndrome". Point 8 towards the bottom of page 7 of the same reference covers the spore dispersal, which seems to be mainly by animals such as rodents or insects. Admittedly it also mentions that water can also carry the spores some distance, but this seems minor. Anyway, good luck if you can find more sources and make the article more accurate and complete. Strobilomyces (talk) 14:37, 19 May 2013 (UTC)