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Wanderer, Montenegro wasn't independent really at all. It was a puppet-state under Italian control and then German occupation (whereas most of the territory was even not held by the occupiers, but the Chetniks throughout most of the war). --PaxEquilibrium 21:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I suppose you're right. I was trying to convey that it was more independent than in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, when it didn't officially exist at all, but you're explanation is better ;). --Thewanderer 22:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How am I doing writing the article so far? Please help over 'ere to write a NPOV article. --PaxEquilibrium 22:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Critika1[edit]

It has nothing to do with me, but then's ideology.

What Stedimlija was saying then was insane to people as much as what Jevrem Brkovic is saying now. I don't care if Montenegrins are "really" Serbs or not (which is a question of both immoral and nonsensical definitions), but we cannot rewrite what happened then. To tell a Montenegrin he's not a Serb (whatever that meant) back then would be like calling Miodrag (of the Liberal Party) a Chetnik today.

Besides, the remains still "scar" the world. In the world, history of Montenegro is still treated as "became out of Serbs" in practically everywhere - from the LaRousse, Brockhaus and Britannica encyclopedias, across the CIA World Factbook to all media reporters like BBC, CNN and Times - it's even more extreme than the situation in Austria, they believe that Montenegrins are "real" Serbs. Considering how 100 years are needed to purge/change these things... who knows how will it take... --PaxEquilibrium 12:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Critika1, he denies that Montenegrins exist, calling them serbianized Croats. He always considered himself a Croat. His ideology is one of those that rocked (similar to Mile Budak, but in Montenegro) Ustashism. How on earth is he "full monte"? --PaxEquilibrium 16:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Piperi clan[edit]

He seemed to know he came from this particular group. Is it not inappropriate to call it Serb on this page if he himself had a Pan-Croat ideology? Evlekis (talk) 22:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]