Talk:Sagara (Hinduism)

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Sagara (Hinduism) article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

India Low‑importance

	India portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.IndiaWikipedia:WikiProject IndiaTemplate:WikiProject IndiaIndia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Hinduism Low‑importance

	Hinduism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Hinduism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Hinduism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HinduismWikipedia:WikiProject HinduismTemplate:WikiProject HinduismHinduism articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Jainism Low‑importance

	This article is part of WikiProject Jainism, an attempt to promote better coordination, content distribution, and cross-referencing between pages dealing with Jainism. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page for more details on the projects. Guidelines: Manual of Style – Naming conventionsJainismWikipedia:WikiProject JainismTemplate:WikiProject JainismJainism articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Comment[edit]

this article is intended to be a stub. I know nothing about this Sagara, but the name came up while I was disambiguating.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Malangali (talk • contribs) 22:55, August 23, 2006

Vedic king?[edit]

Is Sagara a notable figure (or, even mentioned) in any of the Vedas? As far as I can figure, he appears only in the Mahabharata and the Puranas, and the article therefore needs to be renamed. Any suggestions on alternate titles: Sagara (Hinduism), Sagara (mythology), Sagara (Suryavanshi), ...? Pinging @Redtigerxyz: for input. Abecedare (talk) 16:00, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Abecedare: Not sure if he is in the Vedas. G. S. Ghurye does consider him a Vedic king and mentions him in his "Vedic India". --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 09:32, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I guess the "Vedic" is a reference to his era or dynasty, and not the sources. In any case, if he has been referred t as such, best to retain the article under the current name. Abecedare (talk) 14:30, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 September 2015[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Listed for over a month and ultimately unopposed. Jenks24 (talk) 11:32, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sagara (Vedic king) → King Sagara – Vedic not required -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 19:12, 21 September 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 23:48, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 08:16, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I am not averse to a rename per se (see my comment above), but don't think King Sagara is the best name either, given that that is not he is referred in sources I have seen, and wikipedia guidelines on honorifics and royal titles (do they apply to mythological figures too?). Abecedare (talk) 15:29, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

PAHLAVAS AND YAVANAS:

========[edit]

Please do not confuse the Palhavas/Pallavas with Pahlavas in a deliberate bid to mislead and tie up the pre-Ramayanam, Ramayanam, Mahabharatam periods with the Iranians. Likewise, the Yavannas are being referred to as Greeks because somebody baselessly said that the Yavannas could poosible be the Ionians. The Mahabharatam ( it's not Mahabharata) dates as per Hindu astronomical tradition to about 3200 BC and the Ramayanam ( it's not Ramayana)dates likewise to about 7200 BCE. The Sagara king period pre-dates Rama by several milleniia, and yes, there were humans and civlizations present then in ancient India! C'mon guys, this is an encyclopedia and not a junior school class spinning fairy tales, that ties up Hindu events and chronology to Iranian and Greek events, so that Indian pre-history is written to accomodate Western (Greek and Iranian) understanding of civilization development and time-lines! It appears that anything that pre-dates the Sumerian period is just not acceptable to the so-called Western centric scholars of Indian history!

Are the sagaras of Hindu and Jain tradition same?[edit]

Jain tradition stated him to be 2nd chakravarti and Hindu tradition States that it is of Mahabharata time. If they are not same we should have separate articles for each. Rishabh.rsd (talk) 07:45, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]