Talk:SaGa Frontier

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Europe Release Date?[edit]

At this game's GameFAQs data, I can't find any info on a European release for this game, yet a European release date is listed. What is the source of this? Y0u (Y0ur talk page) (Y0ur contributions) 14:08, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

The game was released in one area in Europe, while left unreleased everywhere else. While this, is a bit late, I believe it may or been Germany that released the game. I'm unsure at this time if it was Germany or some other place. But I believe Europe, only in one area, did get this game. Mendinso

Bump. We really need a source. Mobygames say the game was released in the UK, but all this is really shaky. Kariteh 15:46, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Image Inaccuracy[edit]

The image used for Blue in the character section is actually of the Mystic Lord Orlouge of Fascinaturu. A change should be made.

Re: Blue Image Inaccuracy[edit]

You're right. A quick Google search didn't turn up much beyond the shot of him on the game packaging. I can try to get around to scanning the image from the art book that came with my SaGa Frontier Soundtrack set, but that may take awhile. I'll also see about adding to this page within the next few months.

Redirection[edit]

The alkaiser's link, on this page redirects to itself, in a loop.

Get the image right[edit]

The image of Blue is actually Orlouge, a totally different character. They look nothing alike, so I don't know how they could be confused. Someone fix it.

Currently doing an overhaul.[edit]

Me and some helpers are doing a complete overhaul of the SaGa Frontier Wiki. We're adding everything we can, including info from the Essence of SaGa Frontier (if you're wondering why some of the info doesn't appear in the game, it's probably from Essence) if the page looks drastically different one moment to the next, don't worry, we're not hijacking anything. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Notorious MOG (talkcontribs) 18:10, 16 November 2006.

You could try and use the preview function to cute down the number of edits, though. I won't change anything, unless it stops with a lot of stuff removed, but right now it DOES look like you're vandalizing. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 23:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry for all the mess. I'm rather new to Wikipedia (and I've always been terrible at HTML and site design), so that's my fault at how I organized my uh, changes. I know it's hard to see now, but I'll try my best to reorganize the wiki so it looks more professional and it has more info. This isn't going to be the SPEEDIEST process in the world (SaGa Frontier isn't exactly a super popular RPG), but like I said, I have people helping me, so we're all watching each otherss back and work.-Notorious MOG

I just reverted what I aaumed was vandalism from you as it appeared you were blanking the pages. Please accept my apologies if this was a mistake on my part. Might I suggest using edit summaries to prevent future misunderstandings? Thanks. Farosdaughter 23:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, to be honest, it was a mistake, but it's alright, as I can see where you're coming from. Sorry about any confusion! Like I said, I'm reorganizing the page, but the flow of information coming in won't be lightning quick. Me and anyone else has to type the information as we get it, and that may require going back and forth between the game and the computer, so it will take some degree of time.

My apologies for the revert. However, I think it is possible that someone else may follow me so I strongly urge you to use edit summaries to explain your actions. Furthermore, would it be possible to make a Word document of the changes to the text of the article you want to make and change it in one go, as opposed to slowly inserting the text? Just a thought. Farosdaughter 23:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, most certainly! Thanks for the help and advice for a newbie like me. I'll try my best to make this page better with every edit. Much appreciated. Notorious MOG

Reverting back[edit]

I reverted the page back to the way it was before Notorious MOG started overhauling. There seems to be only gain by doing this. Any large changes should be finished before changing the page and making it worse. If you're going to do a major change to the page, do it, rather than change things to what looks like vandalism. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 01:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hidden OST track[edit]

There's actually a 'hidden' tack on disc three of the OST, coming before track 1 (one needs to rewind the CD to access it). It's about 2:12 long, and is referred to as Coon's Theme. Unfortunetly, the only source I can find is GMR, which is a wiki itself. It does seem worth adding though, to be completist. Thoughts? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 20:16, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like cruft to me, except if there's something really special about that track. Kariteh 20:30, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No more cruft than the tracklist itself. It's part of the CD after all, just hidden. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 20:58, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth. Kariteh 21:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have added that information in the article with referencing. Neko jarashi 01:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Red (SaGa Frontier).jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gender Confusion??[edit]

Asellus is female, yet she is called a prince and lord? Err, last time i checked, those titles are way off, i thought it would be more like lady or princess. Ihsbislns (talk) 18:49, 6 December 2007 (UTC)Ihsbislns[reply]

Intriguing, but this is made note of about 5 minutes in when Gina is surprised that the "prince" is a female. It was deliberate. 198.7.245.75 (talk) 02:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:SaGa Frontier/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: ProtoDrake (talk · contribs) 18:35, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]


I'll be back with a full review in a few days. --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:35, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Review[edit]

@Judgesurreal777: I've looked through the article, and it's generally good aside from grammar issues.

  • Maybe expanding the third paragraph of the lead a little so it includes some development information.
  • In the lead, it doesn't seem sensible to have "SaGa series" when it's already in the "Series" box. Trim it down to just "SaGa", and it should look better.
  • The musical score for SaGa Frontier was composed and arranged by Kenji Ito, who provided music for many previous entries in the SaGa franchise. - This statement is uncited.
  • Due to time constraints, some plot points of Asellus' story were removed. - Redundant link needs removing.
  • the game contains different races that exist within the Regions: the Humans, the Mystics (similar to vampires), the Half-Mystics (half Human and half Mystic), the Monsters (shapeshifters) and the Mecs (robots). Some of the game's races are limited in this system. For example, Monsters cannot equip weapons, armor, or spells, while Mecs are capable of equipping parts from other Mecs to add more abilities. - This entire segment is uncited.
  • The publication also criticized the game's graphics, but praised its length and gameplay. - Does this statement refer to Game Informer? It doesn't have an attached citation, and doesn't make any reference to the following statements related to RPGFan and RPGamer.
  • Given its author, I'm a little dubious about the Hardcore Gamer 101 reference. I'd remove it, but it's your decision.

(The author is not listed, so I removed it. Is Hardcore Gamer 101 not a reliable source?)

  • Refs 15 and 25 need their urls updated/archived.
  • Ref 27 isn't a full citation. This needs fixing.
  • External link is dead, needs archiving.

There's what I saw. When this is sorted, it should pass. --ProtoDrake (talk) 09:19, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK @ProtoDrake:, it is all set. There was no author listed in the hard-core gamer 101 reference so I removed the author name from the article, but I think the source is still reliable one as far as I know. Other than that, let me know if there's anything else. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:53, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Judgesurreal777: I can't see anything else obviously wrong with the article. HardCore 101 is accepted as a source in GAs, depending on the author. In general, it seems alright as a retrospective source, so I'll accept its inclution. I think this article can count as a Pass now. --ProtoDrake (talk) 17:05, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]