Talk:Roger Vaughan of Tretower

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Needs elaboration[edit]

Statements such as Roger was intrumental with his brothers and others in securing Wales for Edward IV need elaborating. How did he help secure Wales for the King?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:39, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added a sentence about Privy Council order + moved Mortimer Cross reference into this item, resulting in:

He was instrumental, with his brothers and others, in securing Wales for Edward IV. As directed by the Privy Council on 17 August 1460, they prevented assembly and supply of foods at castles. Roger fought with the Yorkists at the Battle of Mortimer's Cross in February 1461 and is said to have led Owen Tudor to execution at Hereford after the battle. (GREAT edits, by the way!!!)--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:12, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I must say that you also have created two good and interesting articles.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:52, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank YOU! You and Sitush have really helped me quite a lot!!! Your direction and pointers are very much appreciated!--CaroleHenson (talk) 20:36, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marriages[edit]

Did Roger have any children?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just discovered he had a son and four daughters by his first wife, who happens to be named Denise according to the National Library of Wales. He also had a number of illegitimate kids.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:38, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, great! It looks like you took care of the update into the article.--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:23, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, no - I spoke to fast, I need to incorporate the info about his wifes and figured out if Cicely was one of them or who she is. --CaroleHenson (talk) 18:25, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it appears it's the same woman but two different names are given. Denise sounds modern but was occasionally used in medieval times.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:51, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]