Talk:Ring (diacritic)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Uses of 'ẘ'?

The article features the letter 'ẘ' prominently but – unlike for the other letters – provides no clue as to what languages or other systems have a use for this letter.  --Lambiam 18:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Same goes with Latin y-ring 'ẙ'. Some anonymous user [1] added q-ring 'q̊' and another anonymous one [2] added x-ring 'x̊'. Q̊ just points back here. No clues as to what they are used for.

'Q̊' seems to occurs in some papers but it might be a typo for Q-dot 'Q̇', a symbol for cardiac output. I couldn't find much convincing stuff for 'X̊' either. --Moyogo/ (talk) 08:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

The use of å

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85 the letter å is used in thirteen languages (not six as noted here). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:6B0:E:2018:0:0:0:207 (talk) 17:47, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Half ring below and ogonek

The article had a sub-section about half ring above but not below

• U+031C is a combining left half ring below.
• U+0339 is a combining right half ring below.

Initially I was considering not adding these to the article as I also wanted to add an explanation of where these are used. I discovered the diacritic mark as the left half ring below was used in the Royal Thai General System of Transcription (RTGS) for the Cho̜kkōlæt (2008) film title. However, when looking over the RTGS article I saw that they did not use the left half ring below and instead used a small letter o with an ogonek. I revised the Chocolate film article to use a small "o" with an ogonek and I added a note about that Unicode supports half rings below plus a note about the ogonek to this article.

We are still left with not knowing where the left and right half ring below are used. Unlike many of the other diacritic marks, Unicode does not have versions of the Latin letters already combined with the half rings indicating they are either very rare or not used. It appears the only Unicode characters with rings or half rings are U+00C5 Å LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE and U+00E5 å LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE. That's it. Characters such as "o̜" need to be constructed using the Unicode combining characters. --Marc Kupper|talk 00:42, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

So where are the rings?

Why doesn't this article include the rings themselves? Writing on my smartphone, I found it difficult to create COMBINING RING OVER to use in an unusual context. So I came here, here they aren't, unless I'm somehow missing them. I see only the special display versions with a dotted circle where the base character would normally be.

I have added it, using

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which displays as (square brackets added)

[ ̊]

--Thnidu (talk) 23:44, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Umlaut?

There is an umlaut of å. While some use the character œ for this, one can rarely see the character a with small oe (not the digraph œ) above it. It's similar to a^oe (like a^o is similar to å), but different. Can this umlaut be written in HTML, Unicode or something? -84.161.61.36 (talk) 16:00, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

I think you want to use U+0363 ͣ COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER A and U+0366 ͦ COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER O but I'm not sure how to indicate that you don't want U+0366 to combine with U+0363 (aͣͦ). There's probably a way to do it with a Combining Grapheme Joiner, Zero-width joiner, or Zero-width non-joiner but I haven't had any luck yet. DRMcCreedy (talk) 18:26, 14 August 2017 (UTC)