Talk:Rigging

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Nice pictures, but I don't like the horizontal scrolling for reading the text! Patrick 22:55 Dec 20, 2002 (UTC)

I've reduced the size of the image - shouldn't be too bad now. There is no Santa Maria image - if that could be provided it should be illustration number 8.

Alse the text is of course very archaic - but in fact still very relevant - although some sections might be trimmed down a bit. Modern rigging should also be covered better... Egil 10:41 May 1, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks, the size of the images is fine now. - Patrick 11:21 May 1, 2003 (UTC)

Article lacking[edit]

Just added lateen rig to see also, which needs many more. The article or perhaps a Comparative sail rigging article needs to incorporate more named rigs. The commons rigging and sub-cats such as Sailing ships by rig is full of good sail plan illustrations, which would be of great educational value to someone interested in learning about sail tech. // FrankB 22:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another image at [[Image:Schema-greement-TETE.png]]. —DIV (128.250.80.15 (talk) 01:36, 10 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Terms and classifications - Emergency Rig[edit]

The paragraph containing information about the emergency rig, said to be used on ancient galleys, alludes to ^[1] an interesting topic, for sure, but it relevance here is unclear. Perhaps it is relevant and the section needs to be expanded to include more terms for and classifications of rigging. — Leboite (talk) 03:13, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A note may be worth putting here regarding use of a gantline for handling & guiding rigging that is being installed or removed. Maybe gantline(girtline) should be mentioned in other articles instead, such as gantry crane, guy(sailing) or could it simply be referred to under Rope article? — JohnsonL623 (talk) 12:17, 9 September 2012

(UTC) More on this subject at www.captainsclerk.info/memories (find in the list here, an officer's notes on rigging, mentioning girtlines ) — JohnsonL623 (talk) 13:22, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

^ author's original reference for emergency rig, available to view online

Definition[edit]

Webster's 1913: "Dress; tackle; especially (Naut.), the ropes, chains, etc., that support the masts and spars of a vessel, and serve as purchases for adjusting the sails, etc. Running rigging (Naut.), all those ropes used in bracing the yards, making and shortening sail, etc., such as braces, sheets, halyards, clew lines, and the like. — Standing rigging (Naut.), the shrouds and stays."
Webster's 1928: "Dress; tackle; particularly, the ropes which support the masts, extend and contract the sails, &c. of a ship. This is of two kinds, standing rigging, as the shrouds and stays, and running rigging, such as braces, sheets, halliards, clewlines, &c."
Random House 1987: "The ropes, chains, etc., employed to support and work the masts, yards, sails, etc., on a ship."

So, as we can see, that does not include the masts or sails. --Jerome Potts (talk) 03:09, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have trimmed this article to fit within the definitions, above. It was clearly out of scope, addressing parts of a vessel that are better handled, elsewhere. User:HopsonRoad 16:36, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lead sentence dashes muddy the meaning[edit]

The lead paragraph currently consists of a single, long sentence with three em dashes, which muddy the meaning and make it hard to understand:

Rigging comprises the system of ropes, cables and chains, which support a sailing ship or sail boat's masts—standing rigging, including shrouds and stays—and which adjust the position of the vessel's sails and spars to which they are attached—the running rigging, including halyards, braces, sheets and vangs.^[1]

Having only passing familiarity with sailing—I do remember terms like spar, and boom vang, but not enough to define them—I am unable to parse that long sentence in one go due to the three dashes, and I'm still not sure what the standing rigging and the running rigging are, although I guess I could figure it out if I sat down and annotated the sentence piece by piece. Can someone more familiar with the meanings have a go at redoing this? Two em dashes are fine, and can define an appositive, but three generally only confuse the matter. Mathglot (talk) 20:38, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done I had a go yesterday after coming from WP talk:MOS. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 12:12, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[emergency_rig-1] uthor's original reference for emergency rig, available to view online

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