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Removing Indian Section I have removed the reference to the Indian origins of this name as the author who added this reference was confusing Gaelic: Rayan/ Arabic: Rayaan with with the sanskrit name Rai:.^[1] To ensure impartiality i have searched several Indian Names Directories which i am listing bellow, none list Rayan as a name under "R".

Hindu Name sites cross checked: ^[2] ^[3] ^[4]

Hence in the interest of validity and integrity of information of this section, i have removed the Indian references. XXTerryTXx (talk) 16:53, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please let me know if I make any mistakes, this is my very first WikiPedia edit ever.

I don't have my original references available right now, but I do know I had multiple for Rayan (Tamil or Hindu). This was the first so-so source I could find with a quick search: Rare & Royal Princely Names for Baby Boys | GoMama247.

I don't have the bandwidth right now to go searching for the ones I used.

Narayan and Harinarayan are the family names (from South India most recently) we based Rayan on, and the meaning I recall was "Little Prince"

I'm commenting here because I wanted to link to this page but it doesn't have the information I was looking for. Jennyusagi (talk) 15:31, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

==i am originally from india and have never heard any hindu called this name. Neither has anyone's name like this appears in literature. It is very easy to invent stories as there are surely one or two words in any region that will resemble a word but rest assured such name doesn't exist. To understand the mentality behind this please check P.N.OAK who said vatican is Vatika Bhavan 188.29.165.100 (talk)

Proof of use in Indic languages

The word Raayan is quite widely used even in present day Tamil Nadu with the meaning of King. It is common to call children Raaya (Raayan)/Raasa (Rajah). Raayan is used for naming as well.^[5] Another good example is its use in the Tamil Bible itself to translate the verse of Give unto Caesar (ruler)...^[6]. The word Caesar itself on the other hand would be pronounced as Kaiser in most Indian languages.

My dear writer Perhaps you are ignorant that Rayan was derived from Sanskrit language first meaning cosmos it is very much a part of hindi names, It is also used in many other languages including Arabic as you mentioned and also Persian. It does have different meanings in different languages. It odes refer to the Cosmos/Galaxy/heavens/ also a sweet scented herb which spreads its fragrance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.206.212.208 (talk) 13:07, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

King Sri Krishadeva Raya was called Rayan or King in south Indian Languages. This guy who claims himself from India is ignorant.

I have no idea who is continuingly changing this article, but this persistence that Rayan or Rayyan originally came from Hindi, is wholeheartedly wrong. Hindu names either derive from Dravidian or Sanskrit based languages, and Rayan had no application in any area in India before contact with Arabs

the first time i read this articile on "rayan" there was a mention of which sura in the quran 'rayan" is mentioned, but i can't seem to find it anymore. can anyone help me\/? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.227.106 (talk) 20:28, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

people, stop changing the meaning of this article.when i read the article the first time, there was a mention of a "sura" name too. some idiot changed that. the person, who posted the article with teh sura name, if you could please posts it again. that would be great. thank you. please post the name of the sura where "rayan" is mentioned please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.80.11.12 (talk) 21:57, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, finally we have a good edit on this article. Yes I like this revision and think its the best one. makes sense to center focus it on the name meaning 'heavens gate' but its good you placed the persian and indian derivatives of the name too. Thanks, Eddy (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:10, 13 November 2009 (UTC).[reply]

By the way what I don't get about the english spelling of this name from Arabic is how come it has two 'A's instead of just 1. Because, in the arabic spelling there is only 1 'Alif' ريان, infact its only 4 characters just like its english equivalent R(ر)Y(ي)A(ا)N((ن)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by EddyJawed (talk • contribs) 17:15, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, whoever wrote about Rayann name in Israeli culture, thank you very much, thats very interesting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by EddyJawed (talk • contribs) 17:15, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please add the Indian section as well, as per literature and use, it been widely used surname in Tamil Nadu and Raya/Rayan means King in South India as well. Pronunciation may vary : Raa-yan/Rhy-ahn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.191.194.249 (talk) 09:48, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://baby-names.familyeducation.com/name-meaning/rai
^ http://www.indianhindunames.com/indian-hindu-boy-name-r.htm
^ http://www.hindunames.net/boy-names-any-page-15.htm
^ http://hinduism.about.com/od/boynames/a/r.htm
^ http://www.seebabynames.com/?2858%2Craayan. {{cite web}}: External link in |website= (help); Missing or empty |title= (help); Missing or empty |url= (help)
^ https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2012:17. {{cite web}}: External link in |website= (help); Missing or empty |title= (help); Missing or empty |url= (help)

Propose splitting[edit]

I propose that the sections 'Given name' and 'Surname' either be split to a page tentatively called Rayan (name) (but see also Rayan (Persian given name)) or left at 'Rayan', while 'Places' and 'Organizations', as well as any non-name-related content go to Rayan (disambiguation) (which currently redirects here). The current page contains language, origin, and other content not appropriate for a disambiguation page, as well as place names etc. not appropriate for an anthroponymy article. I would welcome other suggestions for appropriate page names, primary topic choices, or other solutions. Cnilep (talk) 07:12, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Cnilep:. Sorry, I saw this tagged for cleanup and so did a clean up, including creating Al Rayyan (disambiguation), before properly noticing the split tag and this Talk page section. Fortunately my actions align with your proposal, except that the disambiguation page is at a different title. I trust that's OK. Regards, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:39, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That is OK with me, except that there has been some treatment (see, for example, above) of other, non-Arabic, non-Persian names. I announced the split proposal at several potentially interested WikiProjects; let's see if anyone else has suggestions or objections. Cnilep (talk) 22:38, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://baby-names.familyeducation.com/name-meaning/rai

[2] ttp://www.indianhindunames.com/indian-hindu-boy-name-r.htm

[3] ttp://www.hindunames.net/boy-names-any-page-15.htm

[4] ttp://hinduism.about.com/od/boynames/a/r.htm

[5] http://www.seebabynames.com/?2858%2Craayan. {{cite web}}: External link in |website= (help); Missing or empty |title= (help); Missing or empty |url= (help)

[6] https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2012:17. {{cite web}}: External link in |website= (help); Missing or empty |title= (help); Missing or empty |url= (help)

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