Talk:Rav-Kav

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Are there any monetary advantages of using a rav-kav? Do they work in the same way as a local bus ticket (i.e. provide free travel for 1.5 hours)? How much does a rav-kav cost? When topping up the rav-kav, do the journeys ever run out, say after a month? Does the rav-kav have credit on the card or a set number of journeys? HostDavid (talk) 12:32, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

There is a possibility to purchase return (or multi-ride tickets), which used to be the only way to gain a student discount for example. One can now place money on the card which can be used (finally) by all transport operators (although when using the railways, one does need to pre-program the trip at the machines. I have heard that this will change soon). For those eligible for discounts have the discounts applied when purchasing pay-as-you-go, such that a student who gets a 33% discount pays NIS200 and gets NIS300 applied to their card. The last option is to buy a day/weekly/monthly travel card which operates according to zones, and can be a very economical alternative to buying single ride tickets, especially if one is travelling, for example from Haifa to Jerusalem and back in a day. As the role-out of rav-kav continues, student discounts, multi-ride tickets, travel cards, 90 minute transfers etc are not available to those who do not have a rav-kav, so there is a huge financial incentive to get a rav-kav if one wants to use public transport. Rav-Kav is free for the first personalised rav-kav and costs NIS10 for a replacement or an anonymous card.77.138.146.46 (talk) 01:11, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

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I have and use a Rav-Kav, and have interrogated various personnel involved with it. Because me and my family members have acquired different Rav-Kavs from different issuing agencies, I personally have access to four different types of card. The following is all WP:OR, which I could "prove" with photos, for example, but having the details here might encourage another editor to track down sources:

• Rav-Kav acts as electronic "wallet" for up to 13 different tickets at one time (Why 13? IDK - and no one else knows either - probably memory constraints) Good luck getting 13 on the card, I got either 7 or 8 at the height of the stupidity that every area needed its own ticket. Thank G-d this is behind us with the "amount" (pay as you go) card77.138.146.46 (talk) 01:15, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
• Tickets may be of three types:

1. An "amount" card, with a shekel value which is deducted for the cost of each variable ride
2. A "count" card, which holds a certain number of rides for a certain route, zone, and class
3. A "duration" card, valid for a certain route / zone / class until an expiry date and time (e.g., a monthly pass expires at 23:59:59 of the 30th or 31st day of the month) Also day travel cards which are useable until 4am on the day after purchase, which is useful when returning from a wedding77.138.146.46 (talk) 01:15, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

• Each ticket is identified by carrier, type of card, and for the latter two types, also by route / zone / class
• Rav-Kav (except anonymous Rav-Kav) retains owner information as follows:
  • Outside the card (on the side opposite the logo pictured in the infobox) is
    • A name and a head & shoulders photo of the owner
    • The outside of the card may or may not show the logo of the issuing transport company
    • A serial number
  • Each issuing company maintains its own database of the cards, typically:
    • Name
    • ID number (either Teudat Zehut or passport number)
    • Date of birth (used for computing age for eligibility of different fare categories - youth, senior citizen, etc.)
    • Address
    • Telephone number
    • Because the database is not centralized (at least as of about May, 2014) a lost card is returned to the issuing agency, which then returns it to the owner
  • The smart chip inside retains:
    • Name
    • Fare type (regular, student, youth, senior citizen, etc.)
    • Issuing agency
    • Card serial number
    • Up to 13 of the tickets named above

We should also try to get some photos of the different Rav-Kav terminals in use by different transport companies. --Eliyahu S ^Talk 01:19, 12 September 2014 (UTC)