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Harry Potter

The Harry Potter Article says he did a excellent job in the forth movie. Should that be inclueded? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evil Deep Blue (talk • contribs) 00:24, 9 March 2006‎ (UTC)

if the Harry Potter Article says who said he did an excellent job, then, yes! Arniep 18:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I've read a lot about Ralph Fiennes and I'm not quite sure about whether he is really a royal cousin. Where did that info come from?--Jaimebienlesfruits 08:25, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

The Question Remains...

The question remains, why, if his name is R-A-L-P-H, which is pronounced RA-LL-F, does he pretentiously insist it be pronounced REIF? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.153.182.52 (talk) 06:42, 18 December 2006‎ (UTC)

Why should you care how he chooses to pronounce his name? And why is the simple courtesy of pronouncing his name as he pronounces it beyond you? I imagine you also find it "pretentious" that Deborah Kerr's name is not pronounced "cur". I suppose the singer Sade is "pretentious" for not pronouncing her name as if it rhymed with "played". You should try to dig yourself out of your little linguistic foxhole a bit. 24.90.17.134 23:53, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
   Why is it pretentious..?
   Its an Old English pronounciation... and he's English ..

Ralph says this: Why is your named pronounced "Rafe"?

"It's a rather outmoded use of that name in English. I was named after my stepgrandfa--step great-grandfather. No sorry, step grandfather, who was called "Rafe" and spelled his name Ralph. And my father admired it and he wanted to call his son "Rafe" and spell it Ralph. I've met the odd "Rafe-but-Ralph." They do exist, but they're quite rare"

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/movies/nyc-fiennes,0,50909.story?coll=ny-moviereview-headlines — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.77.102.10 (talk) 01:25, 22 December 2006‎ (UTC)

OBE

I've taken the WP:BOLD step of deleting this without consultation (as recommended in WP:BLP) partly because I couldn't find it anywhere else (except the well-known Wikipedia leech sites), for example it's not in Who's Who, but mostly because the year suggested for the award was the same as Ranulph Fiennes received his. In other words, a mix-up. Please provide the source before replacing. --Old Moonraker (talk) 06:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Director column

There's no reason for the Filmography section to include a "director" chart. Timneu22 (talk) 11:52, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

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Hero Fiennes Tiffin

"Voldemort actor Ralph Fiennes's nine-year-old nephew has been cast in the role of the young Voldemort in the sixth Harry Potter movie. Hero Fiennes Tiffin will play the 11-year-old Tom Riddle. And Frank Dillane will play teenage Voldemort. Earlier this month, Newsround exclusively revealed that Jessie Cave would play Lavender Brown and Helen McCrory would play Narcissa Malfoy. Both pieces of casting have now been officially confirmed by Warner Bros." [1] --Gabriel Millerd 12:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC) I've changed 'He Who Must Not Be Named' to Lord Voldemort as this seems to pander to geekery and inside knowlege of the HP series. Kayakboy (talk) 02:28, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Unreliable sources?

The sources for the Aeroplane and Bruges stories are the Daily Mail and the Sun, respectively. As such they can't be treated as fact. Unless there are reliable sources for these stories they should be taken down. 135.196.2.145 (talk) 11:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think we distinguish between 'good' and 'bad' newspapers here at WP. Although The Times (for example) should probably have more credence than most London papers, I find there is more unreliability in local newspapers than in any national ones. The Mail isn't exactly seen as unreliable. Even though The Sun is generally looked down on, the problem with it is more in its language and its extreme opinions than in its accuracy on matters of fact. The law of libel threatens all. Moonraker2 (talk) 13:32, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Strange wording regarding aristocracy

The first sentence of the article starts of by says he was born into an aristocratic family. The same sentence says his father was a farmer and a photographer. The wording sounds funny and needs rephrase. "Bob was an aristocrat, son of a pig farmer and a dental assistant, the 8th cousin 14 times removed from Sir Bumblebee who is a 12th cousin of the friend of the chambermaid of Buckingham Palace." Meishern (talk) 11:01, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

This is just a bit of a reductio ad absurdum. To say "born into an English aristocratic family" isn't the same as "was an aristocrat". Although "son of a pig farmer and a dental assistant" is more overstatement, in the English way of seeing things there's no contradiction between being aristocratic and being a pig farmer, or indeed, a dental assistant. the main point is that the description of the Fiennes family is very hard to dispute. Moonraker2 (talk) 11:30, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Looking like Lord Voldemort

He doesn't really look like Lord Voldemort like in the movies. I know that he had to go through alot of makeup but still there isn't a resemblence in my opinion. Also, i don't really understand how the makeup artists got the nostrils/flares; they look really snakelike (i know that he is somewhat snakelike/whatever). I bet it was really hard!! But overall, i think that he is great actor as Lord Voldemort, and resembles the true evil in his character. 

 נאוה  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nero500 (talk • contribs) 01:46, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I've been wondering about those nostrils too. Last week I zapped into CNN's "interview highlights of the year" or something, and there was Mr. Fiennes, giving the simple answer himself: the nose is completely "redone" afterwards, by computer! But if this detail is to be mentioned in WP, I'd rather put it into an article about the HP films (which?). If you consider CNN a reliable source... --Basine (talk) 16:49, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

sister, Michael Enemy!

His foster sister, Michael Enemy, is an archaeologist. Is this an error? Maybe foster brother Michael Emery?

--Wool Bridge (talk) 23:17, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Coriolanus: an idea map not spam

Hello Moonraker,

Why are you deleting the Coriolanus map? It is not spam. It's been added to wikis that relate directly to the subjects. All the links are references to reliable sources like BBC, The New York Times, etc., videos of press conferences, news websites like The Observer, The Guardian, and published books. How is this spam?

It's a map that draws on various sources - all attributed - to allow viewers to make their own conclusions. Hey! It's kind like a map-wiki.

Care to elaborate on what you find so objectionable and not indiscriminately delete?

Thanks, --AshokaPurr 18:46, 5 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashokapurr (talk • contribs)

Please follow the link in the edit summary and read the policy. --Old Moonraker (talk) 21:04, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Guess What....

... we don't speak Old English anymore.. Get with the times.. If you can't see why it's pretentious, you're just as pretentious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.153.182.52 (talk) 12:05, 22 December 2006‎ (UTC)

By your logic, we should do away with all Latin names because "we don't speak Latin anymore." intooblv (talk) 20:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Thats a pretty stupid statement.... A person shouldnt have to change they way their name is meant to be pronounced as given to them ... just because YOU dont say it that way....

If one changes to please others one is shallow... -- atleast ralph is being authentic in sticking to the name his parents gave him and the way they wanted it pronounced and they way he grewup with it.... thats not pretentious and anyone who thinks that it is is just stuck up and prefers the world to conform for their own little comfort. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.215.68 (talk) 09:58, 8 January 2007‎ (UTC)

OK, then.... I'm going to name my next child "Kelly" but it'll be pronounced "Bob." That should be OK, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.42.208.182 (talk) 03:42, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

It's pretentious for the same reason that someone named Hank wants their name pronounced Honk. It's to make a regular Joe name sound more "cultured." H-a-n-k spells Hank and R-a-l-p-h spells Ralph as in puke. Get over it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.87.86.50 (talk) 21:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

86.11.5.126 (talk) 14:19, 23 November 2008 (UTC) It is totally pretentious. If he wants to pronounce his name "Rafe" then he should get his name changed by deed poll so that it is spelt that way. As it stands, his name is spelt "Ralph" and that is how it should be pronounced.

It's a fairly usual name, there's one in my (Irish) family. Any question about it is ridiculous, it's like saying people called Siobhan are pretentious for not pronouncing it Sigh-ob-hann, or people called Niamh should say it "Nee-am-huh". 135.196.2.145 (talk) 11:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

See Ralph (name): It is commonly pronounced /ˈrælf/ but the traditional British pronunciation is /ˈreɪf/. --Espoo (talk) 11:18, 27 August 2009 (UTC) http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxwordsw.html

You are quite wrong. There is no analogy there whatsover. Siobhan is Gaelic and although that language uses similar "Latinized" letter forms to English that is where any similarity ends. The pronounciation conventions for Gaelic are completely different to English. Anyone pronouncing "Siobhan" as "Sigh-ob-hann" would be ignorant. How could you dream of pronouncing one language by the spelling found in another? So your analogy is purile. The argument is about the spellings and pronounciation in the English language alone, and for the record pronouncing the mundane and ordinary Ralf as "Raif" is pompously pretentious! Cholmodely Mainwaring Sidebottom (Or as I prefer it pronounced "Chummly Mannering Cidy-Bo-Tomae") — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.37.15 (talk) 01:17, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Fiennes USE

We know that the article is about Fiennes so could it be possible to replace of few of the 1,000's of Fiennes used to "he" or "him"?LimeyCinema1960 (talk) 08:30, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Edit photo?

Regarding this photograph: "Fiennes in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan in 2003 during his visit as a UNICEF UK ambassador."

Can the picture be cropped to removed the fans or have they signed releases? Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 06:24, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Royal Cousin

As regards the following: "an eighth cousin of HRH, the Prince of Wales" - since that would make him an eighth cousin to the Princess Royal, the Duke of York and the Earl of Wessex, as well, perhaps it would be better to simply establish Ralph Fiennes's connection to their mother, the Queen? -- MIP 10:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

An eighth cousin? How is that in any way remarkable? Go back eight generations and you'll probably link him to half of England. Ubruni (talk) 08:09, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
If that royal stuff can't be sourced and since this is the biography of a living person, why has it been retained? Even if true, how note-worthy is it? 8th cousins are only glancingly related at best. Nine generations from the common ancestor separate 8th cousins - that's a whole lot of people in between. Due to the way we inherit genes, there may not even be any common genetic material left between them. If you followed your genealogy to the extent that you discovered who your 8th cousins are, you would probably find royalty, too. Here's a chart and it only goes to the 6th cousins: http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=relation Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 06:03, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Look at the Joseph Fiennes talk page, "Ancestry" section, to see how those authors handled the obscure royalty connection issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Joseph_Fiennes Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 06:37, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Pronunciation of his Name

Isn't it pronounced "Ray Finnes"?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.130.125.59 (talk) 08:23, 14 August 2006‎ (UTC)

No, it is actually "reif finez".--Jaimebienlesfruits 08:24, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's Reif. I saw a profile of Ralph and his brother pronounced it that way. It's just hard to seperate it from the Fiennes, so you end up with only one F sound; hence people thinking it's Ray. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeathWeed (talk • contribs) 07:53, 6 November 2006‎ (UTC)

At first, I was confused about that, too. Is "reif" a common pronunciation of "Ralph" in Britain? Is it a family name thing? Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 06:06, 18 March 2014 (UTC) NEVER MIND! I just got down to the snippy exchange below about his name pronunciation. (We all get to decide what we want to be called, by the way.)
Thanks again, Wordreader (talk) 06:13, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Ralph Vaughan Williams was a "rafe". Ralph (name) doesn't seem to be related to Raphael (given name), which is a pity because that would go a long way to explaining where "rafe" for Ralph came from. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 06:46, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Personal Life

Why no mention of his ten year relationship with Francesca Annis?124.120.70.174 (talk) 03:36, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

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The first photo of Ralph on the page seems rather unflattering. I wonder if someone could replace it with a nicer one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reader6 (talk • contribs) 23:15, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Reader6, this isn't about personal taste... the lead image is fine. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 23:21, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

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