Talk:Róisín

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Redirect[edit]

Since Roisin is correct for all entries here, and Róisín is not, this should be at Roisin with the redirect from Róisín, not vice versa. -- Gene Nygaard (talk) 17:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Gene, I don't quite understand what you are saying. Most of the entries on the dab page use the accented version of the name, as far as I can see. Can you clarify? Ta. -MurphiaMan (talk) 08:28, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not an error to use the English alphabet when writing in English; Roisin is a "correct" variant of the ones with diacritics. It is quite legitimately written that way in most English language newspapers, for example. But for at least some of them without diacritics, Róisín is not correct English usage. In other words, it should be at the one that is always correct, not at the one that is incorrect for some of them. Gene Nygaard (talk) 19:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is not an error to write in English using the English alphabet, that is quite given. It is however error to spell a Irish name without its correct indications of pronunciation, in the case the fadas in Róisín or "diacritics" if you will. The pronuciation that Roisin gives is, regardless if one understands its spoken term less its fadas, incorrect and if to be spelled "correctly" using the English language would be written somewhat more phonetically eg. Rosheen. The mear fact that the name itself is an Irish one seems to have been overlooked by this "correction", and if one was to besome more indepthly concerned with the correct use of the name in the English language newspapers, for example, one may consider disregarding its Gaelic heritage and refer to the name entirely as Rose. 86.41.33.201 (talk) 01:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Roisin Dubh as metaphor for Ireland[edit]

"Roisin Dubh" redirects to "Roisin". Since "Roisin Dubh" is a fairly common metaphor for Ireland, and the phrase redirects here, I believe mention should be made about this here. 83.109.79.32 (talk) 17:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name dispute[edit]

Using the unaccented version of the name as the primary spelling in incorrect according to the Manual of Style, as far as I can tell: "10. The síneadh fada (or acute accent) should be used when Irish spelling requires it; thus "Mary Robinson (Máire Mhic Róibín)", not "Mary Robinson (Maire Mhic Roibin)".". The word is quite definitely Irish. Roisin is a variant, but not the primary instance. I cite Máire, Siobhán and René as justification for using the accented version first. This is not an anglicised name (Rosheen, which should be mentioned), it is a simplified spelling. As for the Róisín Dubh issue. That shouldn't direct here. It should have it's own page, but it should be mentioned. I'm going to implement the change. Joe Byrne -- Plé -- Contribs - :ga: - :fr: - - 13:41, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

support Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:52, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]