Talk:Quentin Tarantino/Archive 5

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Biased ref #96

Hello, reference #96 (in Controversies: The Hateful Eight) currently links to an article on Breitbart, which is an ultra-biased and conservative news site. The article uses phrases like "with an obvious eye on appeasing the black press" and calls Tarantino's protest "cynical pandering" with "objectively appalling lies about the very same first responders we honored after 9/11"; if that isn't blatant conservative bias, I don't know what is. If an alternate unbiased source could be used that is nowhere near as alt-right as Breitbart, then that would be great.  Bulldog73  Bark  03:32, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

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"Controversies" section

I just happened by this article while doing some gnoming, so please pardon the drive-by comment here.

First of all kudos to the regulars for handling the most recent outbreak of controversy with an even hand and with great neutrality! Given the subject matter and the level of emotional investment (on either side of the issue), that's not easy to do, and I think you've all done a great job there.

However, one thing that sticks out and you may want to try to address is the use of a separate "Controversies" section. Per WP:CSECTION, such separate sections should generally be avoided because they tend to give undue weight to the controversies. And while Tarantino is certainly a person with more than his share of controversies, he is primarily a filmmaker and, as far as I know, is primarily covered that way by the sources. So, for instance, why is the controversy over the type of films, directorial choices, casting, and so forth not covered in the "Controversies" section? Personally I love Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, but dislike or am lukewarm on everything he's made since then; and (movie) critics have tended to have similarly polarised opinions of his ouvre. By singling out the stuff currently in the "Controversies" section its weight is unduly emphasised, for the reader, relative to issues more directly related to his filmmaking.

As I'm just passing through I won't venture to make too specific suggestions for how to handle this, but as an example, the Spike Lee spat could be incorporated into one of the sections covering either Jackie Brown or Django Unchained, depending on where it fits best (or "least worst") chronologically. The two sections on Thurman and Polanski could possibly be incorporated into sections on Tarantino's general relationship with the respective person. Not sure what his relationship, if any, with Polanski is; but the long-time collaboration with Thurman certainly merits coverage that could incorporate this latest controversy too (possibly as part of a "Frequent collaborators" section that contains actual prose and not just a giant list of people).

In any case… kudos on handling the latest controversy, and I hope the above was of some use for further improving the article. (PS. please {{ping|xover}} if you reply to here, I don't usually watch this page so will probably miss your response otherwise). --Xover (talk) 05:35, 8 February 2018 (UTC) [Edited to add a crucial "not". --Xover (talk) 05:51, 9 February 2018 (UTC)


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