Talk:Proterra (bus manufacturer)

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Standard mention weight with and without batteries ?[edit]

because valuable parameters: weight is an important factor in calculating the rolling resistance where about

18.25% of he energy goes to. On a certain moment you're adding batteries to deliver the energy of moving the heavy additional battery itself. There is an optimum.--SvenAERTS (talk) 13:04, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@SvenAERTS: Some math: According to Proterra, the E2 battery offers an energy density of 160 W-hr/kg (September 19, 2017 press release) and the E2 battery, as installed on Catalyst vehicles, has a capacity of 440 kW-hr (per the published specifications). That implies the battery alone weighs

{\frac {440\times 10^{3}W\cdot hr}{160{\frac {W\cdot hr}{kg}}}}=2750kg

; 6,060 lb (2,750 kg). The curb weight of an E2-equipped 35-foot and 40-foot Catalyst are 30,500 and 29,900 pounds (13,800 and 13,600 kg), respectively, and so the "empty" (no battery) weight of the Catalyst chassis is 24,360 and 23,920 lb (11,050 and 10,850 kg) for the 35-foot and 40-foot models, respectively. From the published specifications, that means:

XR battery weight = 27350 - 24360 = 2,990 lb (1,360 kg), 11% of vehicle weight (35' Catalyst)
FC & XR+ battery weight = 28925 - 24360 = 4,565 lb (2,071 kg), 16% of vehicle weight (35')
FC+ & E2 battery weight = 6,060 lb (2,750 kg), 21% of vehicle weight (35')
E2+ battery weight = 31574 - 23920 = 7,654 lb (3,472 kg), 24% of vehicle weight (40')
E2 max battery weight = 33150 - 23920 = 9,230 lb (4,190 kg), 28% of vehicle weight (40')

Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 16:15, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Current operations"[edit]

This section is vague and not cited and contains errors. One thing I found: purchases of buses and options for purchases doesn't make it a current operation, so I renamed it to include future operations. Buses can also be delivered but not in operation yet. I also found different numbers than the uncited ones (and some basic geographical errors). I'm going to try and update any in Washington State over the next day or so, but I consider the rest to be dubious unless cited (and the citation checked). Charlesmartin82 (talk) 22:44, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Article on Edmonton's fleet of problematic Proterra buses[edit]

This article from CBC may be worth incorporating into the article. It includes a quote, "most of the city's 60 electric buses aren't fit to be on the roads" and indicates significant, long-term problems. --Yamla (talk) 17:02, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]