Talk:Poème symphonique

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New York event[edit]

“On 28 January 2012 the work is to be performed in New York at the Netherlands-based contemporary music festival "Gaudeamus Muziekweek". Ref: "Compositions by Dutch composer Michel van der Aa featured at Gaudeamus Muziekweek New York in the ISSUE Project Room" at dutchperformingarts.com

Given the rarity in performance of this piece, I had thought that any would be notable, but especially given the nationality of the performers in this case. It has, however, been “deleted as spam”. Is this because:

  • (a) it’s not in a book;
  • (b) the source is not WP:RS;
  • (c) it’s a future event;
  • (d) it’s an event advertised by a commercial organisation (albeit an international cultural one);
  • (e) all of the above?

I have looked for an alternative source which might not be considered spam, but e.g. this one is only a blog. Perhaps we’ll just have to wait for an “in-depth review” some time after tomorrow night? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:34, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think your items (c) and (d) fall under these guidelines.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 17:16, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see the word "advertising", but not the word "future". Hmmm, I'm sure dutchperformingarts would get a huge financial boost from such a massive 24 hour promotion as this... "omg" Martinevans123 (talk) 18:13, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if "future" isn't an issue, why not wait six months and then see whether mentioning this performance will help the reader better to understand this piece, or its place in history?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 19:39, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think "future" usually is an issue, even though it doesn't appear in WP:SOAPBOX. I'm not sure this is the best place for a "reader" to come to "understand" any piece of music, especially six months after it's been performed. But who khows, it might be in the charts by then. We could put a 30 second sample in. Or maybe we should wait until it hasn't been played for a good ten years? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:01, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Renamed article[edit]

User:Squandermania has, with justification I think, changed the title of this article from Poème Symphonique for 100 Metronomes to just Poème Symphonique. For this reason, I have created a disambiguation page to include the various works of this title by Franz Liszt, whose Wikipedia articles use their alternative names (Mazeppa, Les préludes, etc.), and placed an "About" hatnote at the top of this article. However, since this article's title is now plainly in French (the old title could arguably have been said to be in English, incorporating a French phrase), it should follow the rules of French capitalization (as the content of the article does, except for the directly quoted material which deviates from this norm). Unfortunately, I come up against the limits of my Wiki knowledge on this one, because there is already a redirect page from the French capitalization to the present version. Although I have observed such corrections being made in the past, I cannot recall how to do this. Can someone help, please?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 18:19, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hope this works for you; there might be a neater way to do it, but if there is I don't know it. Very excited to discover this page btw, after working on other fluxus pieces.Franciselliott (talk) 10:15, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]