Talk:Phil Ligrani

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Notability and other tags[edit]

I have removed the notability tag as the verified position he holds would be a pass of Criteria 5 WP:PROF. However, this article is nothing but a résumé with very poor referencing (much of it almost verbatim from from one of the sources. I have tagged it accordingly. Voceditenore (talk) 09:32, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have now trimmed and re-written this. The article is no longer orphaned. All information in the article can be verified by the inline citations. Thus I have removed those maintenance tags. I have left {{third party}} as the refs all come from the institutions where he taught. I have also removed {{autobiography}}, which should only be used if the article still contains puffery and unreferenced self-serving claims. I do not believe it does now. Note also while the subject may have edited this current article, it was not created by him. It was created in 2013 by someone who created three articles on faculty members at the subject's former university, Saint Louis University [1]. Voceditenore (talk) 12:18, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Voceditenore. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:07, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored the {{third party}} tag, recently removed again by User:Ligrani with the edit summary: Removed third party comment because I have fixed the problem. Here are two new references which address this issue. Please note that press releases such as this are not independent and are therefore not third party references. This one is basically press release based as well, both are about the wind tunnel project with a brief mentions of Ligrani as head of the project. Voceditenore (talk) 19:20, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]