Talk:Pharaoh's daughter (wife of Solomon)

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WikiProject Ancient Egypt to-do list:

Needed articles.

We should have an article on every pyramid and every nome in Ancient Egypt. I'm sure the rest of us can think of other articles we should have.

Cleanup.

To start with, most of the general history articles badly need attention. And I'm told that at least some of the dynasty articles need work. Any other candidates?

Standardize the Chronology.

A boring task, but the benefit of doing it is that you can set the dates !(e.g., why say Khufu lived 2589-2566? As long as you keep the length of his reign correct, or cite a respected source, you can date it 2590-2567 or 2585-2563)

Stub sorting

Anyone? I consider this probably the most unimportant of tasks on Wikipedia, but if you believe it needs to be done . . .

Data sorting.

This is a project I'd like to take on some day, & could be applied to more of Wikipedia than just Ancient Egypt. Take one of the standard authorities of history or culture -- Herotodus, the Elder Pliny, the writings of Breasted or Kenneth Kitchen, & see if you can't smoothly merge quotations or information into relevant articles. Probably a good exercise for someone who owns one of those impressive texts, yet can't get access to a research library.

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Other Daughters of Pharoah married to Jewish Biblical Figures[edit]

While this wikipedia article is very informative, the scholarship seems to claim that Solomon's marriage to a daughter of Pharaoh was unique in biblical literature. In that, it ignores the account of the patriarch Abraham's marriage / concubinage relationship with Hagar, who by Rabbinic tradition was also a daughter of Pharaoh. (cf. Genesis 16:1, Rashi adloc., Yonatan Ben Uziel (sic) adloc., Bereishit Rabbah 45:1) 24.185.8.28 (talk) 14:17, 1 November 2010 (UTC)Baruch[reply]

I think you are interpreting things incorrectly. It is unique in scripture. Midrash & specifically the B'reshith Rabba are not scripture and shouldn't be given that much weight. Answers provided in midrash are by scribes living long after the facts and they were attempting to fill in the blanks where they didn't know the answers. That rabbinic tradition has no merit or basis in the scripture.
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 18:19, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Possible bias in sources[edit]

I find it a tad difficult to believe that a website called infidels.com could be objective and as such I would much appreciate if there were another source verifying its information. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.200.115.29 (talk) 22:15, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Section "Naming the Pharaoh"[edit]

This section gives popular theories from several sources including Egyptologists and the Catholic Church. It ignores however one compelling theory that warrants mention. The Egyptologist David Rohl in his book "A Test of Time: The Bible—from Myth to History" (London: Century. ISBN 0-7126-5913-7) puts forth the idea that the Pharaoh is Horemheb. This Pharaoh actually did marry off daughters for political reasons. This fact is attested to by a hieroglyphic inscription on an alabaster vase found in the place of King Nikmaddu of Ugarit during the 1952 excavation season (A. Curtis, Ugarit Cities of the Biblical World, Cambridge 1985 pp 44-45). Text regarding this theory should be added to this section. Ffejmopp (talk) 21:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Congratulations on a great article and amazing job (and in only two days!). I am rating this B class and was tempted to say A class. Nominating the article for Did you know... on the Wikipedia Main Page and the steps for at least a B class biography may be helpful. A few of the lengthy quotations may stop a reader from following the narrative. Is it possible to cut some of the longer quotes in favor of your own words? Also are there any Web sites that could be in an External links section? A gallery or a library or some other resource might bring the story into the present day. Minor points, what about moving the Note for Jewish Publication Society to a Reference section by itself? Also I don't know the rules for punctuation inside quotes, but as there were examples of both I chose inside. Apologies in advance if there is a Wikipedia rule to the contrary. The story and illustrations, the divisions into sections, and the citations are really well done. Best wishes. -Susanlesch 19:03, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The Harem of Amenhotep III[edit]

I've like to see a justification for this comment?

"it included a princess from each of the seven nations listed in 1 Kings 11:1"

What I've read about Amenhotep's Wives elsewhere includes only Hittie wives. And even that is iffy since I question those HItties being he Biblical ones placed near Hebron. BUt the greater point is I've no references to him having wives from Sidon/Tyre, Edom, Moab or Ammon.--JaredMithrandir (talk) 10:47, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We do not have a full list of the harem of Amenhotep III, but it may have been extensive by Egyptian standards.:

"Amenhotep III is known to have married several foreign women:

Gilukhepa, the daughter of Shuttarna II of Mitanni, in the tenth year of his reign.^[1]
Tadukhepa, the daughter of his ally Tushratta of Mitanni, Around Year 36 of his reign.^[2]^[3]
A daughter of Kurigalzu, king of Babylon.^[3]
A daughter of Kadashman-Enlil, king of Babylon.^[3]
A daughter of Tarhundaradu, ruler of Arzawa.^[3]
A daughter of the ruler of Ammia (in modern Syria).^[3]

Gilukhepa was accompanied by "317 women" when she entered the harem.

That's all what I'd read already. That lack any direct overlap with the wives of Solomon. In fact even this article's claim he married a daughter of Tuthmosis IV seems out of date with what we know now.--JaredMithrandir (talk) 01:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If the princess in question is Sitamun, she is more likely a daughter of Amenhotep III rather than his sister. Dimadick (talk) 10:04, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Dodson, Aidan & Hilton, Dyan The Complete Royal Families of Ancient Egypt, Thames & Hudson (2004), p.155
^ Fletcher (2000), p.156
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e Grajetzki, Ancient Egyptian Queens: A Hieroglyphic Dictionary, Golden House Publications, London, 2005, ISBN 978-0-9547218-9-3

[1] Dodson, Aidan & Hilton, Dyan The Complete Royal Families of Ancient Egypt, Thames & Hudson (2004), p.155

[2] Fletcher (2000), p.156

[WG-3] Grajetzki, Ancient Egyptian Queens: A Hieroglyphic Dictionary, Golden House Publications, London, 2005, ISBN 978-0-9547218-9-3

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