Talk:Pesticide toxicity to bees

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I think it would be important to include a source containing information on another route of toxicity exposure in bee colonies. A research article from Purdue University titled “Multiple Routes of Pesticide Exposure for Honey Bees Living Near Agricultural Fields” explains that high levels of clothianidin from planter exhaust during spring sowing of crops were found in sampled fields. The source also talks about neonics (a pesticide chemically similar to nicotine) found in high levels, not only on the crops but surrounding in-treated fields as well found all the way in the pollen of affected hives.

The journal entry can be found here, https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0029268 LaLunaNina (talk) 20:10, 3 March 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaLunaNina (talk • contribs) 20:06, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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From the main page[edit]

The following text was added by an anonymous contributor on the main article page. Since this is commentary about the current state of the article, it belongs on the Talk page. Rossami (talk) 22:28, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Temik is a very dangerous organphosphorous and should not be put under the list as a low toxicity pesticide .People may get the wrong impression that this is a safe chemical to use. This list needs to be compiled very carefully as most pesticides have all sorts poisonous effects to humans and wildlife. There are still many dangers from the use of these chemicals which are still unknown especially the long term effects in humans and the environment.
Temik� (aldicarb), although highly toxic to bees as a contact poison, is used only in granular form, and extensive field usage has not caused bee losses. source:- North Dakota State University and U.S. Department of Agriculture cooperating http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/plantsci/pests/e494w.htm

Merge?[edit]

This article would be well suited for merging into Bees and toxic chemicals since they are both regarding the same specific topic, and share information. Any objections? Apothecia (talk) 19:41, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to make sense to me. Smartse (talk) 23:45, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree Bosula (talk) 18:54, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't they just ban all pesticides everywhere?[edit]

Why doesn't everyone just stop using all pesticides? I don't want any pesticides anywhere in my food. Omvegan (talk) 08:51, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because they are safe and increase crop yield. This allows billions of humans to eat. Nangaf (talk) 06:58, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want food? 209.93.147.141 (talk) 16:19, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kill Rate.[edit]

The kill rates quoted in this article are an order of magnitude too low. A typical colony is 50000 bees and the workers live for about 40 days in the summer. Indeed the laying rate of a typical Queen bee is around 1000 per day, peaking at 1500 to 2000 in late spring, and the normal mortality rate is about the same. If it were only 100 per day the colony would grow to an unbelievable size. The source for this information is any beekeeping manual; Ted Hooper for preference. Bert Coakes. 88.108.254.7 (talk) 17:33, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Glyphosate?[edit]

http://jeb.biologists.org/content/218/17/2799 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carey-gillam/fda-finds-monsantos-weed_b_12008680.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.74.239.106 (talk) 00:00, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

CCD[edit]

The introduction reads

Pesticides are linked to Colony Collapse Disorder and are now considered a main cause, and the toxic effects of Neonicotinoids on bees are confirmed.[5]

. However, this contradicts the main wikipedia page on CCD

Several possible causes for CCD have been proposed, but no single proposal has gained widespread acceptance among the scientific community

or

According to the USDA, pesticides may be contributing to CCD.[61] A 2013 peer-reviewed literature review concluded neonicotinoids in the amounts typically used harm bees and safer alternatives are urgently needed.[47] At the same time, other sources suggest the evidence is not conclusive,[62] and that clarity regarding the facts is hampered by the role played by various issue advocates and lobby groups.[62]

or

According to a 2007 article, the mite Varroa destructor remains the world's most destructive honey bee killer

.

It seems the introduction goes much beyond what is commonly accepted in the scientific community. --Nbonneel (talk) 13:01, 30 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, this article and the CCD article are both a bit out of sorts with the science primarily due to people relying on non-scientific sources pointing straight to pesticides while ignoring the complex of problems that are CCD-associated or independent (yet still detrimental to overall bee health). If either article underwent review for Good Article assessment, they would likely fail at this point. It's on my to-do list at least when work settles down, so I'll see what I can do. Kingofaces43 (talk) 06:53, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The table shows Spectracide has been banned for residential use in the US since 2004, but it's widely available on sale at Walmart online right now. JPLeonard (talk) 21:03, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fipronil[edit]

The Wikipedia article on Fipronil suggests that Fipronil could be considered the main cause of bee colony collapse, but the current article fails to mention Fiponil at all. Inconsistent.

Since fipronil is for killing ants the link to bees is certainly suggestive. JPLeonard (talk) 21:20, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal[edit]

I propose to merge Imidacloprid effects on bees into Pesticide toxicity to bees. I think that the content in the Imidacloprid effects on bees article can easily be subsumed into Pesticide toxicity to bees, and the Pesticide toxicity to bees article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Pesticide toxicity to bees (much of whose content is badly out of date) will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. Hanjaf1 (talk) 06:42, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Imidacloprid effects on bees is now redirected to this page. Hanjaf1 (talk) 21:18, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]