Talk:Order of Mark Master Masons

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Merge?[edit]

In the US, this degree is part of the York Rite. Should it be merged into that article? Blueboar 13:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure, I revcall Pete Normand suggested at one stage breaking out the various degrees within the York Rite, given that the admin structure is an artificial mechanism aggregating a number of only loosely related orders. I'd see that as different from the A&AR which is a coherent progression and the individual degrees require contextualisation within that structure.

I've been thinking about the case for an article on the HRA in its own right (so to speak) and the KT et al already have their own. I'm not a KT so I haven't played much in that area, however I am Mark, RA and A&AR.

What this article does need is de-anglicised.

ALR 10:58, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Mark Degree from UGLE Minutes[edit]

Whilst the commentary states that the minutes were declassified with regard to the possible inclusion of the Mark Degree in UGLE masonry, the article does not state the reason why. The inclusion of the Mark Degree went against the original Articles of Union of the two Grand Lodges. Something to this effect should be included. This is not POV, IMHP. I will try and locate a reference or source for this in due course. Any views?

Aquizard 23:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But the Mark is an essential adjunct to the Fellowcraft. In Operative Lodges, they only worked two Degrees --Apprentice (equivalent to Entered Apprentice) and Journeyman (equivalent to Fellowcraft), and the Mark would be worked on the same evening as Journeyman. So really, the Mark was always an essential part of the Second Degree, almost its Part Two. Nuttyskin (talk) 12:59, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Two Degrees?[edit]

Could we maybe have some additional confirmation there are multiple degrees in Mark Masonry? the Mark Master Masons Province of London webpage states " Unlike the Craft, there is simply the one ceremony, the ceremony of Advancement, i.e. there are no subsequent stages to pass through." -- does the one ceremony confer two degrees?! Mark Master Masons 82.43.183.13 (talk)

Under UGLE Mark IS just one degree: one ceremony, one degree. Nothing more to it than that - you are just made a Mark Mason. However, I do not know how it works in the U.S. or other jurisdictions, so things may be different elsewhere; but under UGLE there is only one degree to complete, and then youy are a full Mark Mason. Middlesex Fire (talk) 13:18, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]