Talk:North American Sabreliner

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 19:29, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

T-39 Sabreliner → North American Sabreliner — I recommend that this article be moved and used as the start for a general article including both the civil and military variants, which have much overlapping content. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 05:44, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Survey[edit]

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Survey - Support votes[edit]

  1. Support - reason noted above. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 05:44, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support - I agree that the civil versions need coverage, but doubt sufficent content exists to support two good articles. - BillCJ 05:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well, presumably we would have to expand the existing content. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 06:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I assumed you planned too :) I do have some printed sources, but it may take me awhile to get to them. - BillCJ 06:30, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Survey - Oppose votes[edit]

Discussion[edit]

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Sabreliner as test bed[edit]

Rockwell Collins, a corporate descendant of North American Aviation, uses a Sabreliner 50 as a flying weather radar test bed. MWS (talk) 03:02, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sabreliner Wing Geometry[edit]

I have corrected the reference to the Sabreliner's wing geometry - the 'liner has a 35 degree sweep, and its wing is modeled on the F-86K 'long wing' Sabre (Air Enthusiast, 1972), and the same holds true for the tailplanes. The F-100 has a 65 degree sweep, and a thinner profile. Please discuss. User Deepshark5, 20th March 2008, 5:49 UTC —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepshark5 (talk • contribs) 05:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One wonders if there is any credible reference, based on company records for instance, that states that the Sabreliner got its name because of, to quote this article, the "similarity of the wing and tail" to the F-86. One would more likely suspect that it was just a marketing or PR ploy to develop a brand association - Sabre, Super Sabre, Sabreliner, etc. - rather than a reasoned argument based on the borrowed engineering of the wing structure, etc. Jmdeur (talk) 20:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My thoughts exactly. With the public love affair with the Sabre and Super Sabre, NA would likely have called it "Sabreliner" to make sure everyone drew the connection and realized who built the thing. I don't think that would be the first time. I suspect the fact that the wing and tail were visually similar was just a handy excuse to toss to the press. Heck, it's possible that they decided to use a visually similar wing and tail specifically to make sure it "looked like a NA aircraft". It is funny how many design cues were repeated between the P-51 and the F-86, -86D and then the F-100. Perhaps it was simply because they thought that was what worked best, but MiG has used their distinctive "MiG Tail" on every jet they've designed for decades (and a similar one before that), and I've never heard that it was because they actually thought that it worked better than other shapes, but rather, it worked as well and was good PR. Anyway...


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