Talk:Non-metropolitan county

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Metropolitan map[edit]

The map in the article is misleading. The map shows metropolitan counties and the associated text explains that pink is non-metropolitan counties. However that is misleading since there are area of the country that are not "red" and are not "shire counties" - especially london. What would be more helpful would be a map coloured to show the counties listed in the text. -- SGBailey 22:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I see your point. I will remedy this. David 22:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Somerset[edit]

I'm pretty sure the missing Somerset should be listed here, but can someone confirm that? Rwendland (talk) 16:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oops! How did that get missed....I'll add it now.... Lozleader (talk) 18:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shire County[edit]

What is this waffle about "Shire county" in the first paragraph? I have never heard anyone say this. Is it really necessary to explain an unheard of misusage in an encyclopaedia article? Hairybuddha (talk) 20:14, 1st June, 2011 (UTC)

I know, it annoys me too. On Googling it appears to be a term unique to Wikipedia.Lozleader (talk) 12:40, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

National Statistics had it in their glossary as far back as October 2003 [1], and there are lots of usages of it in this context in Hansard, including plenty in the 1990s. 81.187.224.74 (talk) 14:30, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Map - needs editing[edit]

The map shows the Isles of Scilly as a non-metropolitan county/part of one... which is not correct. Sumorsǣte (talk) 17:49, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tautological definition - needs rewriting[edit]

"A non-metropolitan county ... is not a metropolitan county" This is frankly ridiculous. As it is a definition of exclusion, it needs to explain (without a link) what a metropolitan county is to make any logical sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:C405:700:2513:7EF8:79F6:C0C3 (talk) 11:17, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Definitions[edit]

Non-metropolitan county[edit]

The article takes a roundabout route to saying that a non-metropolitan county is now an area administered by either a county council or a unitary authority (or is Berkshire). If that is correct, I'll amend the article to say so more directly. The present wording leads to confusion, e.g. in North Yorkshire, where the article asserts that only part of the non-metropolitan county is governed by the county council - which seems to be incorrect (York is a separate non-metropolitan county).

Shire county[edit]

This article asserts that "shire county" is the same as "non-metropolitan county". The article Metropolitan and non-metropolitan counties of England asserts "The unofficial term "shire county" is sometimes used to refer to a two-tier non-metropolitan county, that is, a non-metropolitan county that has more than one district." Which is correct? Is the term still current?

How many unitary authorities are there?[edit]

The article states "Possible types Single tier unitary authority (56)", but the page Unitary authorities of England lists 62 in its table. Nick Barnett (talk) 18:41, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are 62 unitary authority areas in total, but only 56 of those are non-metropolitan counties (as well as districts); the other six in Berkshire are districts only. Dr Greg talk 18:54, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]