Talk:Newton-le-Willows railway station

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Earlestown[edit]

My understanding is that this station was NEVER called Earlestown. The station was called Newton Bridge when it opened and was subsequently renamed Newton-le-Willows.

The next station along is called Earlestown, originally being called Newton Junction when it first opened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.75.73.1 (talk) 10:35, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here's what Butt (1995) has to say:
  • Newton Junction OP 15 September 1830; RN Warrington Junction July 1852 (p.171)
  • Warrington Junction RF Newton Junction July 1852; RN Earlestown Junction November 1861 (p.241)
  • Earlestown Junction RF Warrington Junction November 1861; RN Earlestown 5 June 1950 (p.87)
  • Earlestown RF Earlestown Junction 5 June 1950 (p.87)
  • Earlestown OP 1861; RN Newton Bridge June 1868 (p.87)
  • Newton Bridge RF Earlestown June 1868; RN Newton-le-Willows 14 June 1888 (p.171)
  • Newton-le-Willows RF Newton Bridge 14 June 1888 (p.171)
Butt uses the following code: OP - opened; RN - renamed to; RF - renamed from. We therefore have two stations, one of which started life as Newton Junction and eventually became Earlestown; the other started life as Earlestown and eventually became Newton-le-Willows. This article deals with the second of these. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:43, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I support the initial view given here. [1], for example, lists fare stages in 1832 for both Warrington Junction (later Earlestown) and Newton Bridge (later Newton-le-Willows), i.e. both stations were extant in 1832. In any event, given that the focus of Earle's investment was to the west of Warrington Junction, it seems unlikely that a station to the east would be given his his name. CastWider (talk) 16:53, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Donaghy, TJ (1972). Liverpool & Manchester Railway Operations 1831-1845. David & Charles, Newton Abbott

The Lancashire CI Six-Inch OS Map for 1849 - http://maps.nls.uk/view/102344075 (bottom right-hand corner) - gives the N-le-W station name as "Newton Br. Station" - i.e. Newton Bridge, NOT Earlestown Paul Gaskell (talk) 18:21, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Opening[edit]

The original station opened in 1830 as described in the entry for Newton-le-Willows. Calvert's 1835 print (mislabelled 1825) shows what appear to be small buildings with signal posts either side of the track just beyond the Legh Arms and before the bridge (looking from the east). AF Tait's view from the south shows that the southern building was still in place in 1848 (it is also on the OS map of 1849) and that its length was roughly the same as a span of the bridge, i.e. about 30 feet, longer than might be supposed from Calvert's print. The embankment meant that it had to have a supporting storey which appears in both prints. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CastWider (talkcontribs) 09:41, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]