Talk:New Zealand grebe

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Proposing move[edit]

I'm proposing to move this species to New Zealand dabchick. "New Zealand grebe" is not the name ever used for this endemic New Zealand bird by New Zealanders. Nor is it the predominant name used in reliable sources. The official OSNZ Checklist uses "New Zealand dabchick", as does the standard NZ field guide and all popular NZ bird guides I could find. The IOC World Bird List renamed it for consistency with other grebes, but the IOC explicitly states that if their choice is "contrary to long-established and widespread usage, the rule may be modified or not applied." And in the WikiProject Birds naming conventions: "Wikipedia article titles may diverge from the IOC list when the most common name in reliable sources is different from the IOC name." I think NZ checklist usage should prevail here: the article should be moved and "New Zealand dabchick" should be noted as an alternative form sometimes used overseas but never in NZ. Thoughts? If no objections, I'll move it. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 02:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am inclined to agree. There is a mix of names across various sources, but it does seem to me that Dabchick is more common, and I note the Birds NZ source that lists Dabchick as the common name. I support your proposed move. Marshelec (talk) 07:34, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]