Talk:New World sparrow

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External Link 404[edit]

The external link redirects to another site which results in a 404. I'll leave it to the mods/experts as to what to do with it. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A600:1E38:286A:0:0:0:1 (talk) 18:50, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge[edit]

I've just moved the page from American sparrow to the correctly capitalized American Sparrow (here), based on the WikiProject standards. Please complain below if you'd like. Mukk ^{» Talk «} 02:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 15, 2020 revisions[edit]

In this update to IOC 10.2, the following changes were made:

Update the reference and counts in the introduction.
Add two species.
Revise six binomials.
Revise the sequence of species.

Craigthebirder (talk) 01:03, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Name change from "American sparrow" to "New World sparrow"[edit]

The standard English name for the family Passerellidae is "New World Sparrows". The name is used by all the following:

IOC has "New World Sparrows, Bush Tanagers: see here
H&M4 vol 2 p.337 has "New World Sparrows and allies" see here
Clements Checklist 2019 has "Passerellidae (New World Sparrows)" see here
Cornell Lab Birds of the World uses "New World Sparrows" see here (perhaps behind a paywall)
IUCN/Birdlife International has Passerellidae New World Sparrows (based on HBW) see links here
the AOS (formerly AOU) has "New World Sparrows" - for example 58th Supplement here

~~I'll move this page.~~

Aa77zz (talk) 10:45, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I failed in my attempt to move the page. I've asked on the Bird project talk page here

-Aa77zz (talk) 11:04, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've requested the page move at Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests#Uncontroversial_technical_requests. — Jts1882 | talk 12:13, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - now moved. - Aa77zz (talk) 17:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Authorship[edit]

Sorry Cabanis was author of the subfamily. The family Passerellidae (this article) was introduced in:

Barker, F. K., Burns, K. J., Klicka, J., Lanyon, S. M., & Lovette, I. J. (2013). Going to extremes: contrasting rates of diversification in a recent radiation of New World passerine birds. Systematic Biology, 62(2), 298–320. http://doi.org/10.1093/sysbio/sys094

Please compare pronunciation Pasarellinae versus Passerellidae.--Earwig (talk) 16:24, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cabanis used Passerellinae for the subfamily and this establishes the name for all family group names (superfamily, family, subfamily and, I think, tribe). This is the ICZN Principle of coordination. Same applies to genus group names and species group names.

A more significant issue might be use of Passerellidae (Cabanis 1951) over Arremonidae (Lafresnaye 1841), which should have priority. But this is not our concern as we must follow reliable sources. — Jts1882 | talk 14:44, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]