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On 25 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Anti-black sentiment. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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Untitled[edit]

I'd like to start an honest discussion on the use of "Negrophobia" in politics on White Americans to influence their vote. I'd like to keep the discussion respectful, insightful and informative. Please view the link below and provide feedback.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/07/21/4725628-scaring-white-people-for-fun-and-profit

Magweed (talk) 06:17, 25 July 2010 (UTC)Magweed[reply]

This page is slated for deletion due too only 1 reference.. I would like to add a chain from the last dicussion regarding deletion of Negrophobia from Wikipedia.. Liasted below is a a comment left by badlydrawnjeff during the last attempt to remove Negrophobia from wikipedia. Please see the references below.

Strong keep. The word has a place in an older book by the same name, published by St. Martin's Press and written by noted author and journalist Darius James, who writes books and articles about Blaxploitation. A more academic book is Negrophobia and Reasonable Racism: The Hidden Costs of Being Black in America, a more academic title through the New York University press, and Negrophobia: A Race Riot in 1906, by Mark Bauerlein with Encounter Press. The word is recognized by the American Heritage Dictionary as well. Combine these with the sources already listed in the article, and it becomes evidence that this is absolutely a necessary article. --badlydrawnjeff talk 11:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Do not delete this page from Wikipedia this is very educational, it provides knowledge and insight to the issues facing America and race. A fear of black people is a phobia that exists, for history on this issue please see the link I've pasted below.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/07/21/4725628-scaring-white-people-for-fun-and-profit

Magweed (talk) 06:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)Magweed[reply]

The problem is that "Negrophobia" is not specific to the US and is prevalent among many nations. It is even rampant on Wikipedia in such sites as the "Moors", where no black people of so called "Negroid" characteristics are displayed or mentioned in the article supposedly about a term that has been documented as having been used specifically for black and near black peoples of all religions for over 1400 years in Europe. "Negrophobia" is equally prevalent among Middle Easterns and North Africans perhaps even to a great extent then in America.

Why start just a discussion - why not start your page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.120.70 (talk) 20:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

this word is not the same thing as anti-blackness, why was i redirected to here from there? please keep those pages separate: the article for anti-blackness it's own thing. thank you!

As to earlier, I checked the Moors page and it now does have images of "negroid" Moors. I think this page needs a history section to describe its impact on society. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangokeylime (talk • contribs) 00:38, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review This article is organized quite well and touches on different aspects which is great. It includes the origins of the term, common associations and false interpretations as well. It seems that all the necessary ground has been covered here. The majority, if not all, of the sources are books which seem to be legitimately published. This shows the proper research was conducted and it definitely reflects in the content and quality of the page. One more thing, the overview was great because it acknowledged the different contexts the term may be used in, so this is great as well.Dcauley5 (talk) 02:38, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Plan for editing: Hi! I am planning on editing the lead section by clarifying the unclear “influencing” mechanism in the second sentence of the lead section as well as by adding one more sentence with a summary of all major sections of the article.

In line with user Mangokeylime's comments, I plan on researching the history and historical impacts of the term and practises of negrophobia in order to constitute such a new section in the article. As a “Negrophobia and Identity” subpart to this new historical section, I also intend to further develop, the relevance and content of Frantz Fanon’s reflexion on negrophobia and link it to other works such as Morrison’s The Bluest Eye (1970).

I further intend to restructure the article by developing and adding all debates and discussion on the definitions of negrophobia, which are currently found under “overview”, as subparts of a new section called “Etymology and definitions” which would also include the current “Lexicology” section.

Finally, I am considering editing the references section of the article, by applying the wikipedia referencing style rule of alphabetical order and other required standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarsdeMat (talk • contribs) 14:46, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(CP peer review)

Hi! A section on the history and historical implications of Negrophobia would be well welcomed indeed, as it seems to be an important subject that is missing in this article. Frantz Fanon's works are surely very relevant and can help improve this article. "Les damnés de la terre" is a very influential work of Fanon and could be of interest to you, even though you may probably already know it. Maybe you could also create a section (or include it in the history of the term) on major historical events linked with Negrophobia? It could bring depth and perspective to this concept and its Wikipedia page. Your suggestions seem very good to me and would definitely improve the article. JeanJacquesMoldu (talk) 14:15, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removing redirect from anti-black and anti-blackness[edit]

These terms ("negrophobia," "anti-black" and "anti-blackness") are not the same. Generally this article would benefit from more context for its historical emergence and/or current use (the Rachel Maddow clip for instance appears to use the term sarcastically). The redirect from "anti-black" and "anti-blackness" will likely confuse and offend contemporary users looking for information on the topic of "anti-blackness." Until an article is drafted for "anti-blackness," a redirect to this Category:Anti-black racism would be more appropriate. Regardless, I am removing the current re-direct to this article. --Vaparedes (talk) 08:41, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pathological[edit]

Apparently negrophobia is a mental disorder, not a political attitude. http://empirenews.net/american-medical-association-to-recognize-negrophobia-as-legitimate-mental-illness/ --105.4.6.142 (talk) 20:56, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Should we move this page to Anti-Black Racism?[edit]

The term "negro" in the United States is considered highly offensive today and anti-Black racism is much more widely used. SnappyDragonPennyroyal (talk) 09:52, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 February 2024[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. There's certainly consensus that no article should exist at this title, but it looks like the move should be from Afrophobia to Anti-black sentiment, with Negrophobia then being merged into that. Closing this discussion so that a move request can be started at Afrophobia. (closed by non-admin page mover) asilvering (talk) 06:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Negrophobia → Anti-black sentiment – This is a potentially contentious move, so I want to have a discourse first.
Move per norm Anti-x sentminent in
Anti-black sentiment in the United States
Anti-Korean sentiment
Anti-German sentiment
Anti-Mexican sentiment
Anti-Brazilian sentiment
Anti-British sentiment
Anti-Asian sentiment
Anti-Christian sentiment
And the list goes on. DarmaniLink (talk) 00:52, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support as nom DarmaniLink (talk) 04:09, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support this is quite a silly name. "Negrophobia" would suggest a fear of the color Red Slash 05:43, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Does anyone ever use this term? -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:27, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. As a black person, this title sounds ridiculous and maybe derivative.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 23:42, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The more I read about it, the more I think the term "negrophobia" is a term that should be covered in this encyclopedia, but as a term and not as the umbrella terminology for this phenomenom. Also, although this article has been expanded to include general antipathy against blacks in a global context, it still seems to be fundamentally written from a South African perspective, and the term may have more relevance in that context? Regardless, what I truly want to propose is that this article be merged into the article "Afrophobia" as a subheading, and that the combined article be called "Anti-black sentiment." Both articles, though, need work.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 15:47, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I agree with that. The two articles should be merged and combined under that umbrella, with information about this word as a subheading. DarmaniLink (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.