Talk:Naultinus

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Article needs work[edit]

Whoa!This puppy is in dire need of a clean-up... Expect some new additions in the next few weeks. Kotare (talk) 05:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

3 years later I finally got around to doing it! Looks much better I think, a little more work and it could be bumped up the scale to a better "article quality" class.Kotare (talk) 05:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay some ideas. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:50, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I generally stick a taxonomy section under the lead - all scientific names/subspecies/relationships/common names etc. can go here. Good to stick it above description - as then it bumps description section down page away from taxobox (description section is often the place you wanna stick images next to/in) And move Species list into it.

Some of Distribution and Habitat seems to be taxonomy - but this can be hard to carve up.

A second new species found only on Codfish Island has only been identified in recent years - put the year in here. Better to be exact.

I have generally done species not genera, but I and some other folks did buff up Cockatoo last year if that is any help for layout etc. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:52, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your input man. I don't know of any published information about the Codfish island Naultinus;I have just talked to a DOC guy who has seen them on the island (they're freaking rare - he saw 3 over a total of 300 hours of searching) and an american biologist who is doing the genetic work on them. I've e-mailed him with a whole bunch of questions, also asking for additional info about the "Yellow lipped Gecko". DOC scientist Rod Hitchmoguh did a big phylogenetic study of NZ geckos like 8 years ago and I'm getting in touch with him to source that.. I'd like to get an image of that cladogram for this article - not quite sure how to create one though but will cross that bridge when I come to it. Will start carving up "Distribution and habitat" and "Taxonomy" once I start collecting resources for the latter section and yeah, it will be a bit tricky. this is really satisfying though, think I might be overdoing it a bit, however, it's late and I have to get up to go to work in 7 hours; might be time to take that "wikiholics test", haha.Kotare (talk) 11:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Got an e-mail back, apparently info. on the cofish island naultinus is very scarce, he didn't know how long people have known there are Naultinus on Codfish. Am going to e-mail Rod about the cladogram.. just realized that the following sections of this article also need work

Breeding and Reproduction (gestation period, time of mating, time of birth, viviparity)

Levels of colour variation between species

Predators (natural and invasive)

Captivity; numbers of animals in NZ and requirements to keep them legally.

I Am working on sourcing more info. from a recent forest and bird article about the decline of this genus and threats faced by them. Expect to see more additions in coming weeks.. I'm gonna be a bit of a "weekend warrior" on this one. Kotare (talk) 12:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just another idea.. I'm starting to ramp this article up in terms of size of the body of text but is starting to look a bit barren in terms of photos. Here's what I'm thinking will enhance the article both visually and act to augment existing info. in the text;

Better photo for the lead - more of a close up will be more appropriate given that the taxobox image is so small..

Close up photo of "standard" Naultinus skin/scales next to a close-up photo of the skin/scales of rudis in the "Description section"

Photo of Naultinus offspring to go in the "Reproduction section".

Photo of Naultinus habitat for the "Decline and Conservation" section.

Will try to sort these out in the next few weeks also, I have plenty of contact so sourcing images shouldn't be a big problem.. I have one myself of rudis scales.Kotare (talk) 21:06, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Who is in the trees?[edit]

It seems to me that the table comparing Hoplodactylus and Naultinus is wrong, it has Hoplodactylus:Arboreal, on foliage Naultinus:Terrestrial, sometimes on tree trunks. The other way around surely? The table has shown this for years, am I completely wrong? Has someone checked all the other entries? --Tony Wills (talk) 19:02, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The same table is used on the page Hoplodactylus, with the same apparent error. And from that article it sounds as if it should read "not purely arboreal and will forage on the ground" for "Hoplodactylus" and "Arboreal" for "Naultinus". If it is to be exactly the same table, then it should just be created in one place and transcluded into both articles so that the tables never get out of sync from local editing. But I would prefer that the columns were transposed for this article, and put "Naultinus" first. --Tony Wills (talk) 19:15, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]